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Yoda, I have a feeling you are going to write a check.. With $500 on the line, there are a few people that are going to look into it, I told them I would donate your money to their causes. I was also told about a case that just might fit the bill, they will search for me.. If it is found out that you are correct,It only reinforces that lack of professionalism in Lincoln county and its legal system. When everywhere else in Nebraska holds those accountable, and Lincoln county does not. That shows what a piss poor job is being done. |
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Posted by justmeagain - 2/3/2013 7:57:32 PM
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I've read this story a couple of times, and nowhere do I find mention in THIS story of any other case involving other DUI related deaths/accidents. |
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Posted by mom1964 - 2/2/2013 6:52:48 PM
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So...no examples from Lincoln County Nebraska...and so far, no examples of cases where the person killed was a passenger in the vehicle, and had been drinking with the driver. Brilliant. |
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Posted by Yoda - 2/2/2013 4:55:24 PM
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I have found nearly fifty cases, of vehicular homicide dui in Nebraska, most are in the last few years, Hundreds if you want to go back further, all got prison time, You are probably right, he did not get any special treatment, if that helps you sleep at night...... |
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Posted by justmeagain - 2/2/2013 4:55:19 PM
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KEARNEY, Neb. — In time, Casey Drew hopes the family of Samuel Sullivan III can forgive him for Sullivan's death.
But for now, Drew will serve prison time for the crash that killed Sullivan, 65, of Rockville, Neb.
On Nov. 26 on Highway 10 eight miles north of Kearney, Drew crossed the center line in his GMC pickup and collided nearly head-on with Sullivan's Ford Explorer.
Drew, 24, of Riverdale, Neb., was sentenced Monday in Buffalo County District Court to three to six years in prison for manslaughter. He was also sentenced to 60 days in jail for driving under the influence of alcohol, first offense, at the time of the crash |
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Posted by justmeagain - 2/2/2013 4:51:29 PM
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Fact: you can't prove anything you say is fact. It is not fact. I'm not trying to lesson anything...other than irrationality that is not based on anything other than some warped sense of reality and what actually occurred that is. Fact: after a trial (which pleas are made to 'save' families the turmoil, not trials) he was convicted of what he was charged with. Fact: while your opinion is what it is, it is not based on actual fact. Fact: it is therefore an uninformed opinion. I notice you didn't really try to dispute any of the facts, of that case and others...why is that? |
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Posted by Yoda - 2/2/2013 4:48:40 PM
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Nebraska Man Sentenced to 51 Years in Prison for Fatal Motorcycle Drunk Driving Accident
on February 6, 2012
According to a report from KETV7, a 55-year-old northeast Nebraska man received a lengthy prison sentence for being the cause of a drunk driving motorcycle crash in Nebraska that killed two Emerson college students. The Hubbard resident was driving his vehicle drunk when he crossed the road’s center line and hit the oncoming motorcycle of the two students head-on. The driver was a 20-year-old male and the passenger was his girlfriend, a 19-year-old female. The driver reportedly had a blood alcohol content (BAC) of 0.196 percent, which is more than twice the legal limit in Nebraska of 0.08 percent. This DUI conviction marked the second for the convicted man in Nebraska and his seventh overall.
Court records show that the convicted drunk driver was sentenced to 25 to 40 years in prison for each of the vehicular homicide charges and one year for drunken driving, which the judge ordered he serve consecutively. The judge considered the man’s past convictions when deciding upon a prison sentence and considered the fact that he clearly never took advantage of the state’s many offers to get him help for his alcohol problem. The father of the female victim states the man’s sentencing closes this painful chapter of his family’s life, though he states no matter the length of the prison sentence, it won’t bring his daughter back. He hopes the offender’s sentence makes other Nebraska drivers think twice before drinking and driving |
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Posted by justmeagain - 2/2/2013 4:48:26 PM
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The evidence he threw over the fence was hiding or attempting to hide the beer, instead of offering aid to this "friends" while they were dying. He was treated differently , he had more time , exceptions, and some charges were dropped and dismissed in order to allow a quick and easy less painful for the victims trial. The real "fact" I see is you trying to lessen what he did and even attempted to make this incident similar. The other fact is, police officers should set and much better standard than the others.
Fact his friends were drinking, but fact is, they did not expect to die |
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Posted by justmeagain - 2/2/2013 4:39:54 PM
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It's always such a joy to discuss 'facts' with people who make them up as the go...but anyway. Fact: 2 people died as a result of the incident, and another was injured. They were all employed police officers, but were citizens at the time. Fact: people drinking alcohol are prone to doing stupid things, including illegal things. Fact: the other passengers in the vehicle knew the driver was drinking, and they were drinking right along with him. Speculation: guessing the victim in this incident knew the driver had been drinking, and was drinking along. Threw evidence overthe fence? Who what? Evidence of speed, check. Evidence of driving, check. Evidence of being under the influence, check. Fact: there was no 'plea'. Fact: there was a trial and jury conviction. Fact: evidence of prior wrecks is not admissible. It is the law. It applies to everyone. Fact: the other case I mentioned, the driver and passenger were friends. They were driving around drinking. The driver was speeding and drunk. There was a wreck. The passenger died. He had a prior DUI conviction. He was convicted and sentenced to jail and probation. Fact: his jail sentence was less. Fact: the officer was treated like someone in a similar situation. Fact: in the last 325-30 years, no one from Lincoln County has gone to prison for a similar incident with similar facts...driving around drinking with your friend, and getting in an accident that kills a passenger. That is a FACT. You cannot list one case that is different. Why, because the police officer was treated like others for similar crimes. So, there's your facts. If you can prove me wrong, someone not a police officer who did a similar thing in the last 25-30 years and went to prison...I'll write you a $500.00 check. But the fact is, you can't... |
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Posted by Yoda - 2/2/2013 3:01:53 PM
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Yoda you are not 100% accurate, He killed two officers , intentionally put them at risk when he put the accelerator to the floor and then after that crash, threw the evidence over the fence , tampering, etc etc. Much of his punishment was a plea. The other parts that were not entered in the case were that this was not the first time he had engaged in similar activities and there were injuries.The other case you mentioned I am sure did not involve two police officers. He did get special treatment, those are the facts. |
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Posted by justmeagain - 2/2/2013 10:41:25 AM
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In an attempt to remain off topic, yet also provide facts to the tangential discussion. Yes, the police officer was convicted to 2 felony counts of DUI casusing death. Yes he was sentenced to jail time and probation. Prior to that, another person, who had prior DUI convictions, also was convicted of the same charge (one). He was driving under the influence, wrecked and his passenger was killed in the wreck. His sentence was also jail and probation. So, the conspiracy theorists that think the police officer was treated differently because he was a police officer, cannot actually support their position with facts. The police officer was treated the same as at least one other person (there were actually more) which is the way the system is supposed to work. Whether the sentence was what was 'deserveed' is another discussion. But, the actual fact is that the police officer was not treated differently because he was a police officer. So, if this person is treated the same as all those people in the past with similar charges (though I understand the law has changed a little, and there is a new judge) then the system will have worked the way it is supposed too. I doubt actual facts will change anyone's preconceived notions of injustice however...those who tend to think with a conspiratorial mind, also tend to ignore fact and logic.... |
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Posted by Yoda - 2/2/2013 9:15:36 AM
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You are right bugeater, this is different, the cop got off easy for killing two cops, yes he killed them, put the pedal to the metal and crashed killing his friends. You attempting to blackmail LFM into silence will not make the the facts that Houpt go away.
I think a little refresher will help in this situation, it should be a reminder that no matter who you are, drinking and driving kills.
For those that do not know the case.
http://www.northplattebulletin.com/index.asp?show=news&action=readStory&storyID=60&pageID=3 |
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Posted by justmeagain - 2/1/2013 10:49:22 PM
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I might be wrong but I think that the reason it says he has a fourth or greater DUI is the way it was put in the computer to tie it to the Class III Felony charge because of the motor vehicular manslaughter charge that is attached to the DUI..if they just charged him with a DUI it wouldn't appear to be a felony charge but since it was committed during the course of another felony it's charged as such. |
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Posted by Sapphire - 1/31/2013 10:15:08 PM
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Thanks thisone, I knew it was wrong or someone was confused, again people who think they know everything. Good people, bad mistakes. People just learn from it and send your prayers to all the people involved. Isn't there enough negativity already, why should it be added to?
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Posted by serious - 1/31/2013 10:05:46 PM
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DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE LIQUOR (4TH OR GREATER) though in some states I've seen them state this way and it's the BAC they are talking about. I can see where this could cause confusion. |
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Posted by thisone - 1/31/2013 9:43:29 PM
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That info was on the jail website. It stated he had 4or more DUIs. I feel very saddened for everyone involved. Praying for all that loved and cared for Korey. |
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Posted by thisone - 1/31/2013 9:38:22 PM
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WOW! He DOES NOT have any prior convictions for DUI. I have no idea where you are getting your info from but I access records everyday and he does not! Shame on you!
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Posted by serious - 1/31/2013 9:27:49 PM
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The county attornies need to stop plea bargaining everything down. Here is a guy with 4 prior convictions for DUI. What the hell was he doing out driving around instead of sitting in a jail cell in Lincoln. Our criminal justice system bears a lot of responsiblity in the young ladys death. Will they plea bargain it down again and tell him not to be a naughty boy and get behind the wheel, Sure has worked real good so far hasn't it. Maybe we need a new county attorney |
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Posted by MichaelA - 1/31/2013 9:13:47 PM
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Hey lakefrontmama do you always live in the past? That accident with the police officers was 11 years ago. I guess if you want to pull crap out of the closet I am sure we can talk about some of your family. Maybe a little drug problem some accidents. Let me know if you want me to keep going. Yes I do know who you are who your kids are and what business you own here in NP. I think we should stay on this story and let the past stay in the past. I think you would agree. |
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Posted by bugeater - 1/31/2013 8:07:21 PM
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This breaks my heart - for all involved. |
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Posted by Northplatypus - 1/31/2013 4:36:49 PM
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I am sure this is something that will haunt him for the rest of his life. They grew up together. How sad for all. |
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Posted by Wendy - 1/31/2013 4:30:27 PM
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So sad for the three young people and their families! A few years ago we saw the same thing happen with police officers! Never did hear what our justice system did to them? |
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Posted by lake front mama - 1/31/2013 3:15:31 PM
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So sad for all involved. What a horrible tragedy! My prayers are with all of you. |
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Posted by serious - 1/31/2013 3:09:33 PM
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