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Floyd, the reason you don't understand what is so horrible about babies is not the point. Your username implies that you are male, so you would not know what it would feel like to be 15 and pregnant with no financial support from your family. The only other option would be to carry the baby for 9 months and be shunned by the entire NP community. You are hypocritical; what do you say behind the young teenager who is 8 months pregnant? Babies should not be having babies. If they CHOOSE to give it up for adoption, then their life is forever changed. If they CHOOSE to keep the baby, their life is forever changed, and trust me, if they CHOOSE to abort the baby, their life is forever changed. The choice is NEVER an easy one, but it is their choice, not anyone else's. Walk a mile in the scared 15 year old's shoes, and maybe, just maybe, you might begin to understand. AND, if PP isn't available for the free contraceptives, then you will be seeing a LOT more pregnant 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 year olds in NP. Because some are having sex, so if we can prevent the pregnancy, then PP is doing the job they WANT to do; prevention. |
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Posted by REBBIE  - 10/16/2012 5:34:02 PM
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Call me whatever names you wish, I wasn't offended, I got over name calling years ago. Name calling is what happens when your accuser has no respect for you and is too desperate to form an actual argument.
I totally got what you were saying about olive garden, I just figure no matter what service you go to PP for it is never on the level of a meal out-- I have no problem understanding metaphor no matter how sophmoric that metaphor may be. You made the comparison, not me.
The FACT is that the crux of the abortion debate comes down to ONE thing, and that one thing is simple-- so simple most folks miss the point--When does a human fetus become human? There is NO proof one way or the other. I choose the logical opinion that a human is a human no matter if they live insided a mother or beside her. No matter if they have 2 cells or 200 billion. You can believe otherwise. I just choose to err on the side of the most innocent being in existence.
I don't think I am superior to you, I just think life begins earlier than you think it does. So If you think that makes me an ignorant wanker -- or any other hideous name you choose - then so be it...
And, before you call me a religious zealot, you need to know I am not christian.
Yes, people have the right to do things I wouldn't do. I just can't figure out what is so horrible about a baby that one feels the need to end its life. |
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Posted by floyd - 10/16/2012 3:38:21 PM
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If you do not want an abortion then by all means don't have one. I myself don't believe in abortion BUT I also have enough brains to believe that I have no roght to tell other people how to live their lives. |
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Posted by busybee - 10/16/2012 3:11:22 PM
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@I use several...and I would take anything the Planned Parenthood group says with a very skeptical eye. Yeah, I'm sure they'll have NOTHING to do with abortions just for this town...?! |
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Posted by tdr - 10/16/2012 2:42:26 PM
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I totally did call pro lifers wankers. And my olive garden reference was about my choice not to go there, just the same way a pro lifer has the choice not to use PP's services. I guess that bit of metaphor was too much for the right wingers who want to de-fund public education. |
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Posted by Mike - 10/16/2012 2:13:55 PM
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You are saying pro-life people are wankers?--- well….. only a liberal can say with conviction in a public forum that an abortion is on equal footing with a meal at Olive Garden. What drivel. I don’t care if the PP stats claim 3% or 97%-- we can TRUST PP right?--- If you are not pro life your CHOICE is abortion – that you CAN trust.
FYI – Hey everyone! “DRIVEL” is SUCH a fun word--- really—look it up---almost as fun a word as wanker.
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Posted by floyd - 10/16/2012 2:07:54 PM
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IF a person is on public assistance (welfare-ADC) singel, and pregnant!!! ABORT!!! I will not support more children born to people an the dole. I fully support helping people who need assistance for various reasons, but no more kids when single or on welfare!!!! |
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Posted by 72mgb - 10/16/2012 12:19:07 PM
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Here here busybee! These anti choice wankers don't understand facts. If they did they would understand that PP doesn't provide abortions but they can help you choose a privately owned and operated clinic should you decide to take that route, and even then thats only 3% of what they do. The other 97% is preventing unwanted pregnancies by giving out condoms totally free and helping women get cheaper birth control, and they give breast exams and pap tests and stuff. I choose not to eat at olive garden because I find their food to be unexciting and generic. These curmudgeons can choose to go to other medical providers if they want. |
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Posted by Mike - 10/16/2012 11:58:19 AM
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I am sick to death of these people who think that if they don't like or want something then noone should be allowed to either. If you don't want to go to Planned Parenthood then don't go. But it is not anybody's business if someone else does. Butt the hell out
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Posted by busybee - 10/16/2012 9:55:52 AM
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Cliffne, thanks, that explains it more. But a bigger question is, should the CC be used to either bureaucratically block OR facilitate a business or organization based on personal and/or community bias? Theoretically we elect them to represent us all. If it was, for example, a religious group planning to come to NP would we want our CC used in the same way? Also, is there currently a zoning or other issue re: PP that is soon coming within the scope of the CC? If not, why would a CC meeting be used to publicize and rally support for one viewpoint, as opposed to, say, a public forum or debate in a setting arranged, publicized, and paid for by the interested parties? |
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Posted by Morgan Greenwood - 10/16/2012 7:54:48 AM
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Wow.....over 2000 people don't want planned parenthood. So I guess the 22,000 other people in North Platte that DO want Planned Parenthood aren't allowed to have an opinion or stand up for what they believe in? |
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Posted by Mike - 10/16/2012 7:21:14 AM
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@IUS—very relieved you are so certain, however, there is absolutely no reason for your certainty. That is what they do. |
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Posted by floyd - 10/16/2012 7:07:00 AM
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Morgan, I don't believe that they can stop them today, but I believe it was the city council that held Walmart at bay, back some 20+ years. While Walmart had purchased the land, the zoning, building permits, and other bureaucracy was successfully impeding their pursuits. Don't underestimate the ability of CC to do the wrong thing. |
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Posted by cliffne - 10/16/2012 5:32:46 AM
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Am i missing something here? What does the CC have to do with any business or organization coming into town? They don't approve or deny it. They might be called on to deal with a zoning issue or something, but as long as the biz or org complies with laws, the CC can't stop them, right? Any more than they have that kind of power over a religious group or other entity that not everyone agrees with. So was this group the source of the irrelevant question that they asked to be put to the candidates at the debate last week? The one only 25 interested citizens showed up for??? |
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Posted by Morgan Greenwood - 10/15/2012 9:55:42 PM
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I hope the city council will not be unduly pressured or cave in to this conservative religiously based group. Planned Parenthood is involved in many issues related to women's health. The prolifers concentrate on only one issue - abortion. I am sure that Planned Parenthood is not going to be bringing an abortion clinic to North Platte. I would take anything that this group says about Planned Parenthood with a very skeptical eye. |
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Posted by I use several - 10/15/2012 8:21:00 PM
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