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Sad thing is, the beef you buy from wal mart is probably less than 20 months old like your cows. They pump them full of growth hormones to make them get up to slaughter weight faster. There is kind of an industry standard when it comes to the taste of industrial meat, each pound of hamburger you buy will taste exactly like every other pound of hamburger you buy. Alton Brown calls it the "blandification" of beef. Wouldn't it be neat if people thought of their beef the same way they thought of their wine? A California merlot is different from a French merlot even though it is the same variety of grape in the wine, the difference comes from the soil and the climate where it is grown. When cows eat grass and only grass, a cow from Texas will taste different than a cow from Nebraska. You don't ever hear of beef connoisseurs because they don't exist because the industrial meat machine has made every bite of food you eat taste same. |
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Posted by Mike - 10/10/2012 11:44:18 AM
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Gary's seems to have a lot of fans on here. Does anyone know where the beef comes from that he is selling? We raise our own and have a butcher that we trust to process it to our liking. I have had store bought hamburger, but it usually disappoints as would be expected when your eating old cull cows and worn out bulls ground up as opposed to a 20 month old home raised animal. |
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Posted by sako - 10/10/2012 10:36:59 AM
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If you know the live weight of the cow you buy you can safely assume that you are going to have 55% of that in packaged meat. Give or take a few percent of that and you are good, but it its way off you know something is not right and its time to have a talk with your butcher. |
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Posted by Mike - 10/10/2012 7:41:19 AM
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If you think that the meat dept. is bad in stores, what do you think happens in resturant kitchens? They are bad on cleanliness also. At least when I buy my beef or pork at Gary's Super Foods, I know what I am getting. A one quality meat cut the way I like it. Top that off with down home friendly service I will shop there anytime. Also, you think you are getting your cow when you take it to packing places for butcher, think again. Maybe you are and maybe you aren't. Plus, some of them even short you on what you are getting, not to mention throwing in a little bit of everything into the hamburger. Which makes it foul smelling as well as foul tasting. I would bet the packing places have cleanliness issues. |
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Posted by Wendy - 10/9/2012 8:57:31 PM
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And Steve, yes, that's how it was when I was a kid. We killed a beef in the fall, and it hung in the meat house all winter, getting more tender all the while. Dad would cut a chunk for dinner, and Mom would trim the rind off, and no, we never got sick from eating it. |
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Posted by saywhat - 10/9/2012 10:20:26 AM
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And the leaner the meat is, the less it holds together, thus, the more fat that meat contains, the longer the strings of hamburger, so... all those things, finer blades, more grinding, more fat, makes it hold together in longer pieces. |
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Posted by saywhat - 10/9/2012 10:10:52 AM
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It also gets more stringy, the more times you run it through the grinder. |
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Posted by saywhat - 10/9/2012 10:06:04 AM
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@Mike...The stringy hamburger(Which i don't like either) is a result of a different type blade at the end of the grinder.....Basically its ground up with a series of blades and then pushed out a screen full of round holes at the bottom, Which is what makes it stringy. |
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Posted by Steve - 10/9/2012 10:02:28 AM
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Maybe some of you meat heads (I use that term affectionately) can tell me how they accomplish this. A lot of the time when you buy ground meat (beef, pork, or turkey) its in long strings in the packaging, and you even see video of the meat coming out of the grinder in long strings. How do they do that? Is it a different kind of grinder or some of the weirdo additives in the meat that make it do that? When I grind meat at home it is just in little chunks and not strings like that. I like the way my ground meat grinds better than the stringy stuff, just breaks up better when you are cooking it and makes for a more appealing texture in a burger. |
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Posted by Mike - 10/9/2012 9:40:04 AM
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"Pink slime"! "Pink slime"...the sky is falling. Lean finely textured beef is neither rotten, spoiled or otherwise not beef. It is not mixed with an amonia product. There is an amonia treatment associated with beef, that has been used for years, that helps kill bacteria and other nasty stuff. "Pink slime" was a term coined by the media as a method to keep the sheople effectively under its control. But I agree, Walmart beef stinks. In addition to oxigenating it, they also inject it with a saline solution to retain the "freshness"... |
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Posted by Yoda - 10/9/2012 9:13:59 AM
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@ saywhat....You are right, proper cleanliness and cooking of the meats is the key....However most of you would probably faint if you knew all the stories of how my family handles meats...lol....It was common practice amongst my grandparents to leave all meat hanging in the garage(Regardless of what time of year it was) and you didn't touch it until it had a nice dark coating of green all over it(Which usually took a couple of weeks atleast)....Then you scrape the green off, cut up your meat, cook to medium rare and enjoy!....lol.......We never got sick from it and to this day it was still some of the most tender and best tasting beef you could have!!......By those standards i think most if the local butcher shops are doing fine in the realm of cleanliness. ;) |
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Posted by Steve - 10/9/2012 8:08:44 AM
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And, seriously, just cook the stuff! 160 degrees, like they said. Don't have a meat thermometer? No problem, just cook it 'til the juices run clear. E-coli is just about everywhere in our world. Use clean cooking habits whether you're cooking a steak or making a salad! And by all means, buy your beef from a friend or neighbor, and have it custom slaughtered. You still have to cook it right, tho! |
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Posted by saywhat - 10/9/2012 7:19:51 AM
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Or how about the meat at Taco Smell that was tested by a university lab and found to contain a high concentration of silica. Silica...as in sand. |
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Posted by Mike - 10/9/2012 7:17:59 AM
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Might have been the "pink slime" burger, where they use rotten beef scraps and mix it with an ammonia base product, then the USDA says that is edible. Look it up. |
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Posted by tess tickle - 10/9/2012 6:15:21 AM
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Big chain grocery stores and fast food restaurants have so much control over everything that its hard to get meat that isn't influenced by them in some way, shape, or form. If you've never seen the documentary "Food, Inc." I would highly recommend it, netflix has it for streaming and on DVD and I'm sure the library has it. The way the market works for animal husbandry and food production is kind of like a form of money laundering when you break it down. |
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Posted by Mike - 10/8/2012 8:05:39 PM
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I've really enjoyed the Sandhill Ranchers Beef they bring down from the Mullen area every Saturday morning to sell at the Garden Glove Garden Center. The ranchers own their own packing packing plant. http://sandhillranchersbeef.com I'm glad we really have several good options for high quality meat here. I like Syfferd's chicken from Sutherland, too. |
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Posted by Morgan Greenwood - 10/8/2012 7:56:54 PM
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If people only knew what went on in these places( My job takes me to them all the time) they would stop eating any kind of food altogether, some of them are down right nasty. Even some of these places that have been mentioned have sanitation and Hygiene problems, so it is no surprise things like this come up. Plus their are just not enough inspectors to keep up, they can only do so much. Blame your government for this also allot of the beef that we eat here in Nebraska comes from Oklahoma and Texas not Nebraska ask any of your local butchers where their meet comes from. You will be surprised also Walmart oxygenates their beef to make it look red so therefore you think it is fresh. |
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Posted by nebred - 10/8/2012 6:03:17 PM
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@ ricochet......I had Kelley's butcher a deer for me last year and the year before that they butchered my beef...they did a great job both times and were reasonably priced..... Country Pride Processing in Wallace, Ne butchered my beef this year and its been great so far. |
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Posted by Steve - 10/8/2012 1:35:46 PM
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I don't want to be partial to just Gary's or Henke's, there are other options for beef in North Platte. There is Fiedler's meat market on 4th street, and another place by the Mall. And then there is Kelley's custom pack. Kelley's might be a 'buy your own cow and then bring it to us' place, hence the 'custom pack' name. Has anyone tried these places out?
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Posted by ricochet - 10/8/2012 12:55:08 PM
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Man, its nice to actually agree with people in talkback for once instead of argue with them! |
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Posted by Mike - 10/8/2012 12:35:13 PM
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We do the same with pork, the lady we buy from lives less than 2 miles away. Downside is that the butcher she uses for slaughter and processing is 45 miles away, but its still worth it. |
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Posted by Mike - 10/8/2012 12:34:19 PM
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That's exactly what i do Mike.......I buy a 1/2 beef every year from a local friend of mine and that seems to be about right for my family....Although my family is growing, so i expect i'll need more than a 1/2 beef in the near future. |
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Posted by Steve - 10/8/2012 12:14:59 PM
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One better is to make friends with your local rancher and butcher. Buy the cow directly from the rancher and then custom order your meat from the butcher. Then you've got total control and you know that the beef in your burger patty is from one and only one cow, not several cows or thousands of cows with other fillers and crap like you get from industrial meat. |
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Posted by Mike - 10/8/2012 10:51:38 AM
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This story helps to explain a LOT more than just the beef recall at Wal Mart, now I know how Wal Mart can make a steak taste so bad. It's Canadian beef, probably cut, shrink wrapped, packed, and shipped 2 weeks before it arrived at the store! I have to agree with Philip, the best steak I ever had came from Gary's Super Foods. Henke's (might have spelled it wrong) in Paxton is a good choice too. Wal Mart fired all of their 'in store' meat cutters - all of them, nationwide - when a handful of them tried to join a union at a store in Texas. Besides all of that, support your locally owned stores and farmers markets whenever you can, they are becoming a thing of the past. |
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Posted by ricochet - 10/8/2012 9:56:42 AM
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Just one of the many reasons i stay as far away from walmart as possible and try to shop as locally as i can......Even with clothes(for example)...I'm extremely hard on jeans with my job and even though i may spend twice as much buying them at orschelns verses walmart, They last me three times as long...So well worth the investment!
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Posted by Steve - 10/8/2012 9:37:03 AM
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A lot of their food stuff is low quality. I went to wal mart for the first time in a long time to get some motor oil and a few groceries and their onions and everything were all damaged and starting to rot and stuff. Maybe it was just a bad produce day, but none of that stuff was fit for human consumption. |
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Posted by Mike - 10/8/2012 9:26:22 AM
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Who in their right mind would buy beef from walmart to start with???....Their meat products have been very low quality for years! |
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Posted by Steve - 10/8/2012 9:24:11 AM
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And this is why I hunt instead of buy my food from the industrial meat machine..... |
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Posted by Mike - 10/8/2012 7:30:17 AM
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We live in a state where our primary export is beef. Don't get me wrong, I am a cheapskate and I will usually go to where the best deal is, but Nebraska Beef tastes better. That is part of the reason I would rather shop at Gary's whenever economically feasible. |
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Posted by Philip - 10/8/2012 7:23:47 AM
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No Nebraska beef in Nebraska? Not surprised, USDA does not have a lot of control in Canada. |
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Posted by justmeagain - 10/8/2012 6:53:37 AM
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