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In stepping into such a filthy, unsanitary,place and KNOWING what they were called there FOR...I would o READ the MIRANDA to the jerks just to be on the SAFE SIDE!! And since WHEN does the HHS have to read the Miranda to anyone?? Better start requesting R & D to start reading the Miranda to their victims that they get in there too ( not that the little kids would inderstand it) that get questioned when they come taken there. Its a shame that such LOW punishment gets handed don to them. they should spend a year in the pen THEN a years probation
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Posted by mississipi_blueyes - 7/1/2012 9:01:41 PM
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well there ya go Harvest...like I said had the police read these ppl their rights they would not have gotten off so easily. But, since the police didn't a lot of valuable evidence got thrown out and now here we are...with child abusers getting wrist slaps of misdemeanors and probation. it makes me ill. |
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Posted by jdawg - 7/1/2012 6:57:53 PM
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Q. At what point are police required to inform a suspect of their Miranda rights?
A. After a person has officially been taken into custody (detained by police), but before any interrogation takes place, police must inform them of their right to remain silent and to have an attorney present during questioning. A person is considered to be "in custody" anytime they are placed in an environment in which they do not believe they are free to leave. Example: Police can question witnesses at crime scenes without reading them their Miranda rights, and should a witness implicate themselves in the crime during that questioning, their statements could be used against them later in court.
Q. Can police question a person without reading them their Miranda rights?
A. Yes. The Miranda warnings must be read only before questioning a person who has been taken into custody.
Q. Can police arrest or detain a person without reading them their Miranda rights?
A. Yes, but until the person has been informed of his or her Miranda rights, any statements made by them during interrogation may be ruled inadmissible in court. |
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Posted by harvestseeker - 7/1/2012 12:38:04 PM
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Harvestseeker, You obviously don't know law enforcement! JDAWG is right! The officer is responsible for giving Miranda rights at any time he is conducting an investigation and is about to attempt to question a suspect. PERIOD |
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Posted by witness - 6/30/2012 7:02:14 PM
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Just makes you want to puke. May GOD judge you for what you are and Pray you lose the kids for ever and the ability to reproduce. |
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Posted by Buster - 6/30/2012 2:35:33 PM
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@ sinned2 i totally agree.
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Posted by summer - 6/30/2012 10:11:58 AM
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i think in todays world there are people know the system and play with it to thier advantage . yes thing should have been done way different but. when a person knows how to run the system the system comforms to them . yes i think these parents shouldnt get kids back but i bet these kids are only used as meal tickets not children that are loved and cared for and when you put a money value on all you get is greed . if you know what i meen 1 kid equals this what does four kids equal . kids should be nurtured not tortured |
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Posted by sinned2 - 6/30/2012 9:47:43 AM
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wow u don't know it all. reread this paragraph>>>As the case progressed, key evidence was tossed out because the accused were not advised of their Miranda Rights when they were arrested, so statements they made during later interviews – in particular an interview the next day with Health and Human Service workers – was inadmissible. in case u missed it....key evidence was thrown out because their rights were not read WHEN THEY SWERE ARRESTED. its an officer's job to read them their rights not HHS!!!!! Thanks to this screw up these get off really easy!!!! its pathetic! |
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Posted by jdawg - 6/30/2012 9:17:26 AM
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it is my opinion that our justice system seems to break down at the courthouse.free lawyers,give up some names of someone else doing some crime and you win a golden ticket "PLEA BARGIN".now in this case someone just dropped the ball.REALLY SAD.hope the innocent children will be watched closely when they are returned to these so called parents (if they are not back with them yet).like a check on them everyday by HHS. |
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Posted by summer - 6/30/2012 5:59:52 AM
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I am tired of all you people that don’t know and understand the system ragging on Law Enforcement in North Platte. Read the article, none of the information gathered by police was thrown out. The police did exactly what they were supposed to and the evidence they collected was not in question. The issue is the information gathered by HHS workers and the judge saying that the suspects should have been read their rights before HHS questioned them. HHS has not had to read Miranda in the past and this may change their policy, but the cops that handled this case did their job and did it well and took the kids out of the home. The system after the arrest is what has failed and the police have no control over that. The belief that every time police make an arrest they must read Miranda is false and if you don’t understand Miranda you should read up on it and educate yourself. |
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Posted by iknowall?? - 6/30/2012 5:25:50 AM
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i am not going to mock the justice system, but i will mock the police for this. didnt we hear it with a few other cases here? the police force, bless them, just seem to need a refresher course in the first thing you say when you are cuffing an accused. Miranda should be the first thing said. |
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Posted by wannabe07 - 6/30/2012 12:32:15 AM
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When in doubt...read them their rights ASAP! |
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Posted by tiger4 - 6/29/2012 8:23:25 PM
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harvest we are not anywhere else in the world. get over your need to defend law enforcement. had rights been read these freaks would be convicted of harsher charges. its sickening how child abusers and molesters get away with their crimes. |
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Posted by jdawg - 6/29/2012 3:57:37 PM
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O, bless our justice system. So, he keeps his job at a fast food restaurant. Gets to drive around in his car paid by the state. Then he gets custody of his children to continue to live in filth and dismay. Wonderful, wonderful wonderful. The only thing is he didnt beat them upside the head and make them mentally disabled. I am so proud of North Plate I could puke. How come there isnt anything said about living conditions or what they are required to do and who is going to pay the funeral cost of these children??? Once an offender always an offender and next time it wont be the kids in a kennel they will probably be abused or beaten to death. Just makes my heart pitter patter with joy over our police doing their job one more time. |
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Posted by gabby1 - 6/29/2012 11:30:40 AM
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Where are those poor children now??? |
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Posted by Ace - 6/29/2012 10:22:41 AM
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If they had been arrested properly, the key evidence would not have thrown out harvestseeker. Where is all the people that said the guy was a good guy and had nothing to do with it. Innocent people dont plea down they fight to prove they are not guilty.
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Posted by whatwasthat - 6/29/2012 8:26:24 AM
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The Police did their job and arrested them that night. If you understood our justice system, JDAWG, you would not blame them. The police arrest, the county attorney prosecutes, and the Judges set the penalty. Those arrested get a free lawyer, if they cannot afford a their own, which is also paid by the taxpayers.
If you want stricter sentences, you have to ask yourself if you are willing to pay more taxes. It takes money and time to go to trial and most times, a plea bargain is the most cost effective solution. Is it the best justice solution? Probably not. BUT can you show me a better Judicial system anywhere else in the world? |
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Posted by harvestseeker - 6/29/2012 6:54:41 AM
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Yikes. How embarrassing. |
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Posted by Country - 6/29/2012 6:48:32 AM
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I guess I don't understand!! When an officer goes thru their training, isn't MIRANDA RIGHTS beet in to their heads? If not, maybe it should!! How many times in the past year has crimes been dropped or reduced due to them not receiving their MIRANDA RIGHTS? Come on!! This is getting absolutely rediculous!!!! |
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Posted by blonderose - 6/29/2012 6:48:31 AM
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...You've gotta be kidding me. I give up. North Platte's criminal "justice" system is a joke. |
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Posted by Shorty - 6/28/2012 10:19:21 PM
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goes to show you that those two little boys HAS no RIGHTS!! And WHY couldn't the statments given to HHS be used??? HOW CONVIENT!!!FORGET what the OFFICERS saw,waded through and probably SMELLED...just pat the abusers on the back of the hands..say ten hail mary's and tell them to GO AND SIN NO MORE!!! (at least DONT GET CAUGHT)...not that that would matter as they would walk away anyways. totally digusting |
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Posted by mississipi_blueyes - 6/28/2012 9:46:57 PM
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This makes me sick! The police saw the children in the kennel, and the conditions they were living in! I understand that some evidence was thrown out, but seriously, a year of probation is a joke! |
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Posted by keepitreal - 6/28/2012 9:20:41 PM
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They probably oughta move out of town as fast as possible.... |
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Posted by Stargent - 6/28/2012 8:16:22 PM
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pathetic!!! come on law enforcement do your job!!! |
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Posted by jdawg - 6/28/2012 6:02:31 PM
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