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Well, when Bob. Kerrey said that friends were asking him why he was running to come back to the mire in the miserable situation in Washington, he sounded very sincere when he said that he thought it was duty to try to help bring both sides together, and that if he couldn't help with bipartisanship in the Senate, he would be miserable there, too. A gentleman said, "I hope you're not miserable." I said, "I hope you're not miserable, too." |
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Posted by Tickety-Boo - 5/21/2012 9:28:50 PM
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@maxpower: Is it necessary to be so derogative?
Since I am a registered Independent, your argument fails.
Ms. Fischer is an ideologue, she will not represent all Nebraskans, only her ideology and those who believe as she does. Mr. Kerrey on the other hand is even worse, he is in it for himself, a self-serving politician. |
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Posted by SRW - 5/20/2012 11:55:53 PM
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Saying neither party's candidate will change a thing is what someone says when their party's candidate is going to lose. |
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Posted by maxpower - 5/20/2012 10:01:12 PM
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Well said SRW, it's good to hear from you. We are a people of good sense, but political discussions reflect it less and less. Extremism is the most vocal. |
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Posted by George Lauby - 5/20/2012 3:44:14 PM
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wow SRW that was one of the most thought out, honest easy to read and understand post I have ever seen on talk back. Well done!! and yes you are correct!! |
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Posted by negirl2 - 5/19/2012 1:33:31 PM
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@Maxpower: The problems in Washington D.C. cannot be blamed completely on Democrats or Republicans, however facts are facts and the Republicans in the Senate have filibustered more times during the first two years of President Obama's Administration then any other time in the history of the Senate, and the Republicans are on track to break that record. The practice of putting the political party first before the people, or what is right, is being well demonstrated by the Republicans in the Senate on just about every level; continuing this trend, and expanding it, will sooner or later make our political system impudent, and unable to function. Which will endanger the welfare and security of the American people, and the nation.
So why do it? Republican Senators are afraid of angering their "TEA Party" constituents, who have and will run a primary campaign challenge even against the most conservative Republican if they dare compromise with the Democrats, or President Obama. Members of Congress (and their families) enjoy the best government run healthcare plan our tax dollars can buy, and their pension plan is the envy of the private sector, and all the special perks they enjoy from lobbyist. So there is a real self-interest financial reason for these Republican Senators to be obstructionist. They are more concerned with their ability to be re-elected, then doing the right thing, or what is in the best interest of the American people.
If you look at the records since the 1960's the abuse of the filibuster, by both parties, has increased considerably year over year, with a few exceptions. This is partisan gridlock, and does nothing but hurt us, the people of this country. Every time a Senator filibusters a bill, they are putting their political ideology and self-interest before the American people, this dishonors the office they hold.
Politicians should have a political philosophy not an ideology; because a philosophy is open to debate, discussion, criticism, new information (such as logical provable facts), and is willing to compromise for the betterment of everyone. An ideology on the other hand is an unwavering position, that neither seeks debate, questions, new information, nor engages in compromise, and despises criticism (even from within it own membership). It will protect itself, at the detriment of everything else, and serves only it's own interest.
The Republican politicians in Washington have become wholly ideological, and have only one interest; preserving and obtaining more political power, it benefits them immensely. However, the Democratic party is not without its share of ideologues either, it does have them, but they do not exert the same amount of control in the party, nor do they fear their constituents in the same manner as the Republicans fear theirs.
The fault really does lie with us, the American people, after all we vote these people into office. Too many Americans have become as polarized as the extremist in their respective parties. Simple respect of the Office of the Presidency has become uncommon anymore, most people have nothing but contempt for our government, yet we all benefit immensely from it everyday. As long as we continue to hold them in such low regard, they will continue to act as such. Political service should be an honor, as it is about serving the people, the public good, not a party or an ideology, and as such should be regarded as the highest privilege anyone could possibly earn, it should be respected and admired. But that will not happen if we keep electing political ideologues, rather than political philosophers.
Electing Deb Fischer or Bob Kerrey will not change a thing in Washington, they are both political ideologues, and are concerned only with their respective party ideology or their own self-interest. |
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Posted by SRW - 5/18/2012 6:40:16 PM
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@nebred—".Bob don't look to good"
I was there; he looks GREAT! Said he has friends telling him that Washington is such a miserable disaster that they wonder why he would decide to wade into the mess. He said he thinks it's his duty to try to go back and help straighten things out, and if he didn't think he could help do that, he wouldn't be running. Go, Bob, go! |
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Posted by Tickety-Boo - 5/18/2012 3:37:02 PM
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Terry, the democrats controlled both houses of congress, and the presidency for two years. They passed everything they wanted to. Bailouts, stimulus, healthcare, financial regulation, and now it's the house republican fault. You are blinded by ideology. |
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Posted by maxpower - 5/17/2012 8:33:26 PM
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Max, Everyone has a right to an opinion. I think our leaders are doing the best they can with the Congress we have. I don’t trust anyone that uses people for political gain. The Tea Party may have some good ideas to move this country forward, but the Koch Brothers want to use these people for their own political gains. Until Congress compromises on the important issues to get people back to work and to help the economy, we are at a stalemate. The question I have for a want a be politician is, what are you going to do if you are elected? How are you going to stand up to these powerful people and represent the people of Nebraska? If you can’t cross party lines, because you are afraid of loosing your elected job, then who do you represent?
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Posted by Terry 1951 - 5/17/2012 7:58:38 PM
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By the looks of the pictures in the other story of him here in NP.Bob don't look to good, not sure he could make it through 4 years must be all the sophisticated living in New York |
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Posted by nebred - 5/17/2012 7:50:19 PM
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You two are clearly ideologues, so there is no sense in discussing politics. FYI, I defended Obama's stance on same sex marriage, and I took a lot of heat from a lot of friends for it. To me it was the right thing to do regardless of politics. I also believe Obama deserves a lot of the credit for our troops killing Bin Ladin. I think he's had some other foreign policy successes as well. But the truth is he's an idiot when it comes to the economy. Can either of you even say one thing that he has done wrong? Or is it all Bush, the Koch bros., Palin, the Tea Party, the house republicans fault. Seriously, get real. |
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Posted by maxpower - 5/17/2012 7:04:16 PM
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that didnt come out quite right!! But again Im sure you know what I meant. Please proof read it for me max. ty in advance
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Posted by negirl2 - 5/17/2012 3:42:20 PM
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I dont really think Kerrey will win this red state or Obama for that matter. Sorry I left out a letter " e " max. Like it makes any difference. You know what I meant. I too cant wait for November so people like max can see Obama will win the election. People are sick and tired of the same ole republican bs and expect Obama to have it fixed in 3 1/2 years? lol Yo maxpower he(Obama) wont win nebraska but imo Mitt "the robot" Romney doesnt have a snowballs chance in the general election. Once all the bain capitol info comes out not to mention offshore bank accounts. Legal or not the average american CANT relate to that. The right wing fringe of the GOP is just gonna have to get over it. OBAMA 2012 because what other REAL choice do we really have? |
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Posted by negirl2 - 5/17/2012 3:40:15 PM
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Sorry max. Some people just don’t get it, so you have to give an example of why this is not an issue. The Koch Brothers, the parent of the Tea Party, and Sarah Palin’s endorsement, is an issue for State Senator Fisher. Oh, by the way max, digits, not digets, believes, not beleives, RomneyCare, not Obamacare. Things will change when and if she gets to the issues facing our great country.
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Posted by Terry 1951 - 5/17/2012 3:16:45 PM
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This post has been edited or blacked out.
Hey Terry, next time try to make your point without boring me with stories about your family. Maybe you should ask your kids to run? They too could get crushed by double digets like Bob Kerrey will. I will give you this much- at least you spelled his name right. Yea, negirl2, the next time you talk up a candidate you might want to spell their name correctly. By the way, the first polls have come out, and Deb Fischer leads Kerrey BY 18% POINTS!!! Oh, but I'm sure Kerrey will make that difference up with those popular issues he beleives in like Obamacare, cap and trade, and more deficit spending, and running for senate in Nebraska while not having lived there in 12 years. Can't wait until November. |
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Posted by maxpower - 5/17/2012 2:32:10 PM
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well said Terry!! Im not sure why but I enjoyed the fact she beat Bruining. She does get congrats for that!! BOB KERRY 2012!! |
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Posted by negirl2 - 5/17/2012 1:51:14 PM
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According to some of these posts, I have a son, daughter, and two brothers that are carpetbaggers, if they wanted to move back to Nebraska and run for political office. O my, is that all you have? They all bleed Nebraska Red. They all love Nebraska and would be back here if they could. You go were your job takes you. Did you vote for Iowa’s Mike Johanns the first time he ran for Governor? What about Virginia’s Chuck Hagel? And Louisiana’s Jeff Fortenberry? My brother in Tacoma, WA, was career military. We both travel and meet at Nebraska football games in other states. UCLA this year. My son is a UNL grad and still has season tickets to Nebraska Football. Stick to the issues. Their will be tens of million of dollars spent in Nebraska this year on attack ads. You hear all the want a be politicians talking about compromise to help our country. There is only one person that knows the word and how to spell it, and that is Bob Kerrey.
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Posted by Terry 1951 - 5/17/2012 12:24:31 PM
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And, he was here in North Platte, campaigning just this morning. |
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Posted by Tickety-Boo - 5/17/2012 12:14:26 PM
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"He couldn't leave fast enough, and there is no way he wants to come back. Even to campaign."
He graduated from the University of Nebraska, fought for this country in Vietnam, earning a Medal of Honor, and served four years as our governor before representing Nebraska in the United States Senate for 12 years. He's exactly what the Senate needs: a cool head with a great brain inside it and a good heart to back it up. He has my vote. |
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Posted by Tickety-Boo - 5/17/2012 12:13:45 PM
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I use...that ad is not a Fischer Campaing ad, but one of those wonderful Citizens United ads. They are the super PAC that is funding most of the Republican attack ads. It is against the law for Fischer to have any input whatsoever on those. And, I agree, they stink. Let's hope both Deb and Bob raise above this kind of sliminess.... |
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Posted by doby - 5/17/2012 2:29:50 AM
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I did appreciate how Deb Fischer ran her campaign and am glad the chest thumping arrogance of Bruning and Stenberg got what it deserved - defeat. Kerrey has done a good job so far of talking issues and not personalities. It would be such a breath of fresh air if BOTH of these candidates would focus on their ideas and goals and how they will go about accomplishing them without spending so much time attacking the other person's credentials. I was disappointed to hear that tired ad about "Not in My House" against Kerrey tonight on TV. It is not impressive and only attacks Kerrey without saying one thing about what Fischer would do if elected. Can the ad, Deb! If Deb is truly sincere and issues oriented then I want to hear her acknowledge that we DO have problems with health care in this country and how SHE would like to see those addressed if she doesn't like what President Obama has put in place. I would also like to hear her acknowledge that we DO have issues with global warming and how those should be addressed in her view. The tired old Republican lines of "how many times can you say the word "conservative" in one sentence, how much derision can you heap on "Obamacare", and how many times can you say that "traditional marriage must be protected" as the main reasons you should vote for a candidate just don't hold water with this voter. We will see what kind of candidate she becomes over the next few months. |
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Posted by I use several - 5/16/2012 9:25:02 PM
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Sarah Palin was thrust into the political spotlight to try and gain back women for John McCain. Didn't work. Why? She's just as insane (if not more so) than the rest of the far-left. She, too, was trying to set back women's rights, and us intelligent women saw through the act. Inserting the term "mama grizzlies" into every speech doesn't mean she cares about women. It means she can showboat better than most. I don't watch MSNBC. Or even much national news at all as of late. I make my decisions based off campaigns. I pay attention to what the candidates themselves are saying/doing, and how they are voting/plan to vote in the future. Deb Fischer is just like the rest. Open your eyes. |
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Posted by Shorty - 5/16/2012 8:31:43 PM
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Yea, I'm sure Deb Fischer will be voting to set back womens rights. Do you know how stupid that sounds? Shorty do you have any original thoughts, or do you just repeat what you hear on MSNBC. Kerrey will get crushed. Deb Fischer is an authentic Nebraskan. She will represent the state well. Kerrey will lose, and go back to NYC. The only reason he even ran is because either way he knew he wouldn't have to live in Nebraska. Lose and go home to NYC, win and get a Capital Hill condo. Anything but live in Nebraska. He couldn't leave fast enough, and there is no way he wants to come back. Even to campaign. Vote Deb Fischer. |
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Posted by maxpower - 5/16/2012 7:46:40 PM
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Well, see... That's the dilemma in Nebraska. You have the far-right, crazy bible-thumpers who worship at Tea Party rallies, or you have the one sane guy on the other side. Now, I could write in Bugs Bunny on my ballot, but then I would be ridiculed for "wasting" my vote. Kerry it is. :) |
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Posted by Shorty - 5/16/2012 4:58:44 PM
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By civilized you mean, the Republican candidate correct? Or are they both carpetbaggers? |
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Posted by DonMega - 5/16/2012 3:37:06 PM
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Crazy people vote for carpetbaggers, civilized people vote for the best canidate of any party!! |
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Posted by 72mgb - 5/16/2012 3:32:17 PM
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Are Nebraska Democrats so desperate they will vote for a carpetbagging New Yorker for Senate? Kerrey deserted his state for a decade then came back here as if owed his old Senate seat. He likes New York so much then he needs to stay. |
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Posted by are you kidding? - 5/16/2012 3:06:21 PM
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I agree with Shorty. Glad its not bruning but will be voting for Kerry also!! |
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Posted by negirl2 - 5/16/2012 1:29:54 PM
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Fischer is just the same old same old from the far right, just like the rest of them. Repeal healthcare, go backward on women's rights, no taxes for the wealthy, etc. Also, the fact that the nutty PALINS endorsed her says a lot in itself. Just like Santorum and Huckabee's endorsement of Bruning. |
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Posted by Shorty - 5/16/2012 12:19:32 PM
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Shorty,
Please explain why you dislike Fisher and why anyone should vote for carpetbagger Kerry/ |
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Posted by usetolivethere - 5/16/2012 9:31:49 AM
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Well... Good riddance to Bruning. Now maybe he'll go away for a while. I was hoping someone would pull off an upset like this. Of course, I'm no fan of Fischer either. Vote Bob Kerrey! :) |
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Posted by Shorty - 5/16/2012 8:12:47 AM
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I have had the priviledge to call Deb Fischer a friend for 30 years and I can tell you she is the woman for the job as U.S. Senator. She ran a grass roots campaign and no mud slinging. Deb is a lifelong Nebraskan, unlike Kerry who is in my opinion, a Nebraskan when it serves his purpose only. She is a level headed, smart thinking, sand in her shoes Cherry County Sandhiller. Way to go Deb!! |
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Posted by fox - 5/16/2012 7:56:55 AM
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I believe this win for Fischer also kills Mayor Kaschke's back-up plan of being in Bruning's staff if he were to not be re-elected in November. Which, looks like a very real possibility. |
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Posted by Slickster - 5/16/2012 6:25:26 AM
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Looks as if Bruning spent too much time attacking Kerrey and Obama and forgot he had other Republican challengers for the spot. He had his eye on November and it cost him. Thank you Nebraska voters for putting Bruning and Stenberg in their mudslinging, attacking places. I would rather hear what each candidate has to offer instead of attacking others. |
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Posted by Slickster - 5/16/2012 6:22:28 AM
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Well, good for her. Kind of like how she campainged. Will be interesting to see how she does head-to-head with Kerry. |
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Posted by doby - 5/16/2012 1:55:27 AM
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