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Ben Nelson

Facing a firestorm of controversy, the last vote fell in place Saturday to enact federal health care reform.

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Sen. Ben Nelson said he would vote for reform, paving the way for the bill’s passage before Christmas.

Before Nelson agreed to vote for the bill, the bill was rewritten to prevent federal money from being spent for abortions. Nelson also obtained more federal money for Nebraska for Medicaid.

The Republicans are now running out of options to stop the bill. Nelson is the last vote needed to stop a filibuster, giving the bill’s supporters the 60 votes needed to force a vote, analysts said.

Nelson and a handful of other opponents, notably Sen. Joe Lieberman, withheld their votes to eliminate the "public option" from the bill, infuriating staunch Democrat party supporters.

Nelson said the public option and abortion funding were two provisions that Nebraskans overwhelmingingly opposed in town hall meetings, including one in North Platte in late August.

Republicans were immediately critical. The Nebraska State GOP said Nelson would “rue his fateful decision.”


No funds for abortion

In a crowded news conference Saturday in a Senate hallway, Nelson said he now supports the bill because it doesn’t have the public option (government run health insurance), allows the free market to work, bans federal funding of abortion, and will establish insurance exchanges in each state where people can compare insurance provisions and prices.

He said the bill “walls off federal dollars for abortion in an effective manner” and does not trump nearly a dozen existing state bans on abortion funds.

Under the bill, if a poor person receives a government subsidy for insurance, that person would have to write his or her own check for abortion coverage. And, when state insurance exchanges are created in 2014, each exchange will be required to contain at least one insurance plan that does not even cover abortions.

Also, the bill also allocates $250 million over 10 years to subsidize the cost of adoption for needy parents, Nelson said.

Sen. Mike Johanns, who co-sponsored an anti-abortion-funding amendment with Nelson two weeks ago that was defeated in the Senate, called the new anti-abortion provision “reprehensible.”

On the floor Saturday morning, the Republicans forced Senate clerks to read the entire 330-page compromise proposal, a rarely-used option that stalled proceedings for nearly eight hours.

A final vote on the bill could occur Wednesday, analysts said.


Medicaid

Under the bill, more federal money would help the very low income pay for health care. Medicaid would be expanded to cover all individuals if their income is 33 percent below the federal poverty level, which would add about 30 million people to the Medicaid rolls, the Washington Post estimated.

Currently, individual states must also pay part of Medicaid costs.

Gov. Dave Heineman recently wrote Nelson, fearing that the expanding Medicaid coverage would overwhelm Nebraska's already-tight budget.

Nelson, a long-time critic of unfunded federal mandates, obtained full federal funding for Nebraska for the added Medicaid coverage.

Under the bill, all states will recieve federal funds for additional Medicaid patients for three years, but Nebraska’s share will always continue to come from the federal government.


In the bill

* Every American would be required to obtain coverage or face annual penalties.

* Employers could be fined if they fail to offer affordable coverage.

* Low-income people and very small business would receive subsidies or tax credits to help them pay for coverage.

* A complete ban on pre-existing conditions would take effect in 2014.

* Lifetime limits on health insurance payments would be banned. Annual payment limits would be restricted immediately and permanently banned by 2014.

* Private insurance firms for the first time could offer national insurance policies to all U.S. residents across state lines.

* State-based insurance exchanges, or marketplaces, will be in place by 2014.

* Patients could appeal to an independent state board if an insurer denies a medical claim.

* All insurance companies would be required to spend at least 80 cents of every dollar they collect in premiums to deliver health care to their customers.

* Grants would go to state governments to test ways to eliminate medical malpractice lawsuits (tort reform).

* Among the new taxes that will be levied, couples making more than $250,000 a year would pay an additional 0.9 percent in Medicare payroll taxes. There would also be a tax on, among other things, indoor tanning.

* Medicare funds would be cut by $500 billion over the next 10 years. Regulators would seek to control waste and excessive charges.

For more on the bill see the Washington Post. Try clicking HERE.


 
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pp-your feeble attempt to induce yet another argument only proves my case that you are here only to goad people.Take your lame comments and go crawl back under the rock from whence you came.It surprises me that you would even lower yourself to our level since we are such uneducated,inbred mouthbreathers.You obviously don''t even know yourself which side of the fence you fall on here.I,for one,am done with you and your decidedly elitest attitude.Merry Christmas to you,even though you deserve nothing but coal and soot.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Badger    - 12/24/2009 10:19:17 PM
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Also, what exactly do I ''deserve'' this Christmas Badger? Please do tell!
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by parapraxis    - 12/24/2009 12:51:12 PM
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Badger, epic fail at reading comprehension. I have actually stated that I don''t really like this bill. Also, you hope he burns in hell? How christian of you.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by parapraxis    - 12/24/2009 12:48:20 PM
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It should make all Nebraskans proud to be part of the "Cornhusker Kickback"-NOT! This guy was bought off and is a disgrace. He needs to go at the next election. He is lining his own pockets.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by hooper    - 12/24/2009 8:16:59 AM
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parapraxis-you claim to be so intelligent on this issue.Yet have epically failed to respond as to WHY you feel this garbage bill should make americans "entitled" to it.To you I simply say,I hope you get everything you deserve for christmas.The rest of us probably won''t since you will still being breathing.Your attitude stinks.Have you ever seriously considered moving to the montana wastelands and living off the land?It is a cinch that you wouldn''t have to worry about us inbred mouthbreather there.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Badger    - 12/24/2009 7:32:44 AM
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Ren,you said a mouthful.I only wish I could say I disagree.But sadly,what you said was dead-on truth.The current politicos have taken on the same attitude as the "me generation".They are going to have it their way,no matter what it costs our kids.We should all feel totally ashamed at the massive debt bill that we have laid at our childrens feet.I guess now I can understand why some kids act the way they do,they weren''t taught any better by the people who should be setting the example.In any case,Benedict Ben will burn in hell for the betrayal of the vast majority of Nebraskans that he "backdoored".I can only hope his punishment will be to be cursed with hemorrhoids with nary a preparation H tube in sight for all eternity.(Rather symbolic for the pain in the butt he has been to all Nebraskans.)
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Badger    - 12/24/2009 7:22:33 AM
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This is just plain wrong. Our government says this will insure 30 million that dont have insurance now, it will also knock down the debt by 150 billion in 10 years....thats right, it will, by raising many taxes and creating more new taxs. Also, what about Medicaid...people who cant afford insurance qualify for this already. Good Samaratin Hosp in kearney reported just the other day the saw 2000 people last year w/o insurance and did not get paid....that alone cost me more, however, those people got medical attention...it is a law that the hosp. cannot turn away people who need care. This whole bill stinks in a way I cannot put to words on this blog. Our government should be ashamed, but they wont be, they push this crap on us every day. I really like the comment on "Detroit". That guy is 100% right. We really have no rights any longer, we can just move around still w/o having to give the man an itinerary (I highly doubt that will be the same in 10 years). Once again, our elected officials should be ashamed of themselves, but what do expect out of a politician....they are all scum of the earth to put it bluntly.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Ren    - 12/24/2009 5:45:55 AM
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people that belittle people are just little people!
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by harleyman    - 12/23/2009 8:49:56 PM
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The policies being instituted by both the left and right today have more than a good chance at turning the rest of America into Detroit. Take a few moments to investigate what''s going on in Detroit and then ask yourself why this isn''t spoke about on our nightly news. Detroit is the poster-child city of socialism and socialism is being instituted by both left and right politicians. LOL @ the goofs on here thinking blindly tossing money based on feelings is a good thing.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Hoghunter    - 12/23/2009 8:01:41 PM
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http://givebentheboot.com
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by harleyman    - 12/23/2009 1:01:07 PM
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''Separation of church and state'' is a common way of referring to that article. Semantics. The government can not make a law because a religion thinks it is right/wrong.

There are absolutely people on here saying that people without health insurance should not receive medical care. Not in so many words but that is the logical step after saying ''health insurance is not an entitlement''. Using your same reasoning, any right that we take for granted per the constitution can be taken away.

With a health care system in place like Canada''s (for example, I''m not saying we should be Canada. Also, for love of God please spare me the exaggerated speech about wait times. Please.)yes, we WOULD pay more in taxes. Obviously. Everyone knows taxes is a dirty word that causes instant anger. However, you wouldn''t be paying monthly premiums, co-pays, and all of that. Unless, of course, you wanted to carry side insurance, such for elective procedures. Even if that meant paying a bit more each month (for average people with run of the mill insurance through work, it absolutely would not be more)I believe it would be worth it to make sure no one has to forgo life saving treatment or medicine. Especially children that don''t have a choice. We are all in this together. :)
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by parapraxis    - 12/23/2009 12:11:12 PM
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You should read that a little closer. It says nothing about separation. You should also finish reading it, the part about the free exercise. In the context of this forum, you should realize that nobody is saying that people shouldn''t have health care. Just that government control of it will only make the situation worse. If you truly believe that it''s an entitlement for the government to give then you have to realize that the same government can take it away.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Diogenes    - 12/23/2009 11:43:04 AM
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Diogenes, it''s in the first amendment. ''Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion''
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by parapraxis    - 12/23/2009 11:13:16 AM
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Haha Hoghunter. Broke out the thesaurus just for me. Thanks! Oh let me guess, you use puerile in everyday conversation instead of the standard immature or childish, am I right?

My only opinion on this thread is that people saying others who can''t afford insurance or have inadequate insurance should not be entitled to health care is WRONG. You would certainly agree with me if it was someone close to you in a medical bind. Life is important.

I don''t care for the proposal as it stands now. Of course, I''m all for full fledged commie healthcare ;-) but that is beside the point. I think as it stands, it''s really kind of a hot mess.

Like I said though...that really isn''t my issue on this thread.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by parapraxis    - 12/23/2009 11:07:58 AM
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parapraxis, just where do you find that separation of church and state? Sorry about the lack of paragraphs. I haven''t figured out this whole posting thing yet, like the quotation marks. And where does the entitlement come from, assuming there is one?
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Diogenes    - 12/23/2009 8:35:02 AM
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Dillikin, you make me laugh! ''I trust my government more than I do insurance companies.'' Both are run by human beings. Do people suddenly become more virtuous when they become Federal employees? HA! You only have to look as far as Congress to debunk that one: 1)Voting massive pay-raises for themselves when hundreds of thousands of their ''subjects'' are losing their jobs every month. 2)Exempting themselves from having to participate in this legislation. 3) Taking money from Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac and then looking the other way as they continued to make bad loans. 4) Shutting off water to farmers who need it for their crops, who now have to rely on food banks for food, because a 2'' fish might die in California. I could go on, and on, and on, and on. And those are just the people we''ve elected to represent us! That''s not including the millions of others who are not accountable to voters!!(They just got a nice pay raise too, I might add.) I honestly feel sorry for people who think the government can take of us better than we can.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by horseygirl    - 12/23/2009 8:02:17 AM
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parapraxis, through all your spewings you''ve proven nothing but your own puerility.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Hoghunter    - 12/23/2009 7:54:08 AM
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I''ve got an idea...how about everyone that is sucking off the government...get a job and pay your own way like those of us who work. No excuses.....barring those with real disabilities....not just the ones who think they have one.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Ren    - 12/23/2009 6:08:04 AM
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Gatekeeper and Diogenes, long posts without paragraphs usually getting confused with rambling. I will try to answer the main parts though.

It''s not a leap in logic to say you think people without cash on hand or whose insurance is screwing them around deserve to just die off. If they aren''t entitled to life saving health care, what is the alternative?

Hm. I''m trying to sort through your posts and don''t really see any major debatable points. I guess I can address the abortion dig. (always a good accelerant to internets freakout!)You know believing life begins at conception is a religious belief right? There is that whole pesky separation of church and state business.

Gatekeeper, you place people that smoke pot and sex offenders in the same category? That''s...wow. Interesting.

Walt, I never mentioned if I was for or against this as it''s written. ;)
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by parapraxis    - 12/23/2009 1:30:35 AM
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The only thing wrong with this bill as I see it is that it doesn''t go far enough, but that is the fault of the Republican obstructionists who have managed to water this down to the point that it doesn''t cover everyone. Health care SHOULD be a right, not a privilege. This bill doesn''t do it, but at least it''s a start. Walt, right now the insurance companies are playing God with our loved ones'' lives, denying coverage for needed care after years of paying premiums. I trust my government more than I do the insurance companies. I just wish this could have been Medicare For All. Most people know Medicare and trust it, and it would have been easier and less costly to implement. This country is one of the best in the world. We should have had national health care a long time ago. It''s about time.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Dillikin    - 12/23/2009 12:11:47 AM
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Very well put,Hoghunter.If Benedict Ben would have voted the way his constituants were telling him to,maybe we wouldn''t be in this downward spiral at the moment.It will be interesting to see which side of his mouth he trys to talk his way out now.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Badger    - 12/22/2009 9:43:01 PM
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To me the most disturbing part is people still buying into the lies and propaganda. Is this because they''re good people who can''t fathom nefarious intent? Naivety? Lack of discernment? You can see it right here, people who are being scammed claiming it''s THEY who are more intelligent, they who are more socially and/or mentally evolved, they resort to petty name calling and putdowns. Truth is America is broke, morally, financially and spiritually, we can''t afford to pay for anything right now, not our wars, not health care, not bailouts, not stimulus packages, not even normal operating expenses, we CAN''T PAY FOR IT!! Our enemies know this and the politicians who are saving themselves and their friends know this and the trick is WE''RE NOT IN ON IT!! We get the bill, they get the goods. I don''t give a crud if it''s Dem. or Rep. they''ve used us like a two dollar ______. They play us off one another like fools! Black vs. White, liberal vs. conservative, pro life vs. pro choice and on and on and on. Wake up soon or..........
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Hoghunter    - 12/22/2009 8:58:53 PM
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I wonder if Ben and his fellow traitors already knew abot this? http://www.nationalreview.com/doctor/post/?q=NTU0ZjI4ZmU3N2RmNTRiODE0NDgzNmNlM2RkY2VlYTI= Once we get this, they certainly want it to stay.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Diogenes    - 12/22/2009 2:53:33 PM
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parapraxis and others in favor of this... what will you do when your loved one needs medical treatment and the government decides that your loved one''s life is of no use to society and denies treatment?
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Walt    - 12/22/2009 12:42:54 PM
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Parapraxis''s attempt at an elitist response was lost on this particular “mouth breather.” He was asked simply to explain why health care should be an entitlement? He has yet to answer this issue but rather put down people for their opinions. He also is good at interjecting words in peoples mouths (obviously whilst they breath). I read back through all the posts and do not see where anyone said that people who couldn''t afford insurance deserve to die! This is a great way to debate an issue. By making up an issue that is not even relevant. Now the Democrats did place value on a persons life by rationalizing a persons “quality of life.” This means if the medication to prolong someone''s LIFE by a few months is to expensive than it shouldn''t be utilized because of the cost. In this same thought process an infants “quality of life” is less than yours or mine because they do not have the ability to rationalize. So thank you for making my point by explaining that it wouldn''t be ethical to place value on life. The issue here is that not only will this bill place values on Americans but increase our taxes significantly. My point was that while I am already responsible for my own health care now I will be required to be responsible for others health care too. Now in the Season of Giving I might sound evil but at the same time I do not mind helping others when in need. What I do not want is to have to take care of someone into perpetuity. Our welfare system shows how persons that need it can utilize it but others take advantage of the situation and abuse what others are giving them. This happens everyday and the people who abuse the system are the scum that make me less willing to also pay for this to be abused. Lastly, I am amazed that the left, while wanting to extend the reach of Government on an issue like Health Care would also want the Government to back off on something like drug use. I for one am glad that my brain is consistent with my beliefs. Drugs should be illegal … period. Sexual Offenders also waste resources and room in jail. Should we legalize that?
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Gatekeeper    - 12/22/2009 12:15:53 PM
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Until ALL LEGISLATORS live on the insurance plan they have proposed, there will be no equity for ANYONE not working for the government. Many citizens have insurance...so what, it has limits protecting the insurance company. The argument is: Has the U. S. Congress done a positive thing with this legislation? No!
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by dateach    - 12/22/2009 10:46:02 AM
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Parapraxis, you''ve made some huge assumptions and taken some mighty leaps of illogic. First I challenge you to find a quote by anyone who says anyone without insurance deserves to die. Maybe I missed it. As a society we value only certain life, those already born for instance. The callousness you seem so concerned about is a direct result of our cheapening of the lives of unborn children. Old people are following fast and next are the other ‘non-productive'' members of society. (I''m sure you would be convinced that all of us inbred, mouth-breathers should be included, since we produce nothing that you value.) This is the very direction this health care legislation, whatever its final form, is taking us; to rationed care. History has shown us time and again how these things work. The concerns you have about the ‘right people'' getting treatment are exactly what we inbreds have been voicing about government run health care. You think that government bureaucrats will show more compassion than insurance company bureaucrats. I''m not sure where you come up with the connection to drug dealers, pimps and Rush Limbaugh. Personally, I never listen to any of them if I can avoid it. Evidently, since you have no answers you just need to vent. By the way, you''re not hurting our feelings by not wanting to be counted among ‘us.'' I never referred to anyone as lowlifes. Of course, I didn''t refer to anyone as inbred mouth-breathers who have no empathy either, so I guess you can read me better than I can. All of your vitriol and assumptions aside, where is the entitlement to health care? I have a family member whose medical bills I''ve paid in the past and I may have to do so again. Am I entitled to have other people do so instead? There used to be many charitable organizations helping with catastrophic costs. There are still some, the Shriners come to mind. Even without them, it isn''t my responsibility to pay someone else''s bills and vice versa. All of the supposed concerns that people have for the medically uninsured seem only to be solved by government intervention. Where is the authority for that? As far as empathy goes, do you practice what you preach? It''s easy to be generous with other people''s time and resources. What are you doing to alleviate the pain and suffering of the uninsured? If you despise the people on this forum so much why do you bother coming here? I have to go now. I''ve done drooled all over these letters and thangs.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Diogenes    - 12/22/2009 10:14:01 AM
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Ha, Gatekeeper. I hope they do legalize marijuana. What a ridiculous waste of resources and jail space! Also, I was not putting down the collective citizens of Nebraska, just those that post on talkback.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by parapraxis    - 12/22/2009 12:29:38 AM
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Ok, here are a few simple points presented with small words at your request Diogenes. Now, keep in mind I did not state my opinion on the current proposal. I only commented on the disgusting "every person for themselves, bootstraps, if you don''t have enough cash or good enough insurance you deserve to die" mouth breathers.

1. As a society we value life. Logical reasoning follows that as a society, we pay for that life.

2. What if someone who is a "good person" (by your standards), that does everything right irt insurance, faces a tragedy that maxes out their lifetime limit on their insurance? Let''s say a short time later they face a medical malady that can be treated but if not will turn fatal. This person does not "deserve" available life saving treatment because they don''t have the cash? Keep in mind this could happen to your mother, brother, daughter.

"We" (am loathe to put myself in the same category as a lot of you) already pay for the "drug dealers" and "pimps" health care in the form of emergency room visits and medicaid. Also, you realize that these lowlifes you speak of are actually fellow human beings and again, could be your mother, son, cousin, good friend, etc. right? Hell, I''m sure most of the imbreds on here just love Rush, what with his massive addiction to narcotic pain relievers and all.

Again, I have not stated any personal opinion on the reform bill. I am commenting on the appalling lack of empathy prevalent here.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by parapraxis    - 12/22/2009 12:27:42 AM
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Gatekeeper I agree! I just wish the socialist would leave my country alone or take someone with them!
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by harleyman    - 12/21/2009 8:43:04 PM
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Blue cross/Blue shield will save over 20 million $ thanks to Ben....also, the insurance industry was the largest contributor to Ben Nelson Candidacy in the past 5 years....spending 650,000.00. Source....The Kearney Dailey Hub 12/21/09
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Ren    - 12/21/2009 6:16:51 PM
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I am truly disgusted by this whole situation. This will be pushed through in the back room while buying off people like Nelson. Yet there are people on here that think this is a good thing?? If it were so good why not allow transparency? Over 2000 pages in this bill and most of the 60 voting for it have not even seen it. And the rest that are not voting for it HAVE NOT seen it. Now I would expect that Extremist would support this because the left wing obviously expects the Government to pay for everything. Maybe they will back door the legalization of Marijuana for you too! Oh then I am sure you would want the Government to pay for your dope also. I agree that our health care needed changes but I pay for my own health care and now will get to pay for everyone else''s too. As far as parapraxis if you are so nauseated by living near me than move. Health Care is not a right and will not stand as such in Court. You will see this in the near future. And for you to spew your rhetoric putting down the good citizens of this state is ridiculous. I for one will not vote for Ben in the future and expect that a lot of people that had voted for him in the past feel the same way. This is what happens when you do not follow what the majority of your constituents want you to do. He is a sell out and I am sure he will land on his feet. In fact he has already made a deal for his future while spitting in the face of the great citizens of Nebraska.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Gatekeeper    - 12/21/2009 2:51:46 PM
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Extremist, if this is SO GOOD for the people of this country, why are 65% of Americans against it? If this is SO GOOD for the people of Nebraska, why is a full 80% of Nebraskans against it?? Oh, that''s right ... we are all hicks and we don''t know what''s good for us, I get it. Regardless, Ben Nelson is supposed to represent the majority of the citizens of Nebraska ... HE DOES NOT!!!!
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by horseygirl    - 12/21/2009 2:39:42 PM
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parapraxis, please enlighten us as to why health care is an entitlement. Just disagreeing doesn''t quite prove your point, no matter how massive your intellect in comparison to the rest of us nauseating pea brains. Be sure you type slowly and use small words so that we aren''t blinded by the brilliance of your pronouncements. We wait in eager, unworthy anticipation.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Diogenes    - 12/21/2009 1:29:59 PM
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why would anyone waste there breath talking to tom hansen
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by catchme22    - 12/21/2009 12:27:45 PM
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I am "entitled" to : being the best looking, being the richest, never getting sick, cheating on my wife (with no consequences), lie, cheat, steal, help the corporations and people who funded my campaign, not listen to my constituants, and last but not least, not have to abide by the new health care legislation--I get a much better plan and care-- I AM A POLITICIAN
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Ren    - 12/21/2009 11:10:44 AM
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Ben Nelson just did a live interview on the McCook radio station''s Open Line Program and stated: He was not pressured by the white house or his colleages to support this bill and the only pressure he had was to do the right thing. Earlier he had said: My vote is not for sale. With statements like these, why would we believe anything he says?
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by sako    - 12/21/2009 9:35:27 AM
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parapraxis medical insurance is a privlage not an entitlement. why do I say this you may ask it is because people work hard for what they make and they pay for insurance with that hard earned money,unlike the alcholics and drug heads that have done Jack S and get free medical paid for by you and me. Health care is a must for all but to pay the high prices we pay for is wrong. I am one of those who would qualify for governent sponsred health care But as far as I see it I do not want it . The government has no right to tell me what I can and cannot be treated for weather I live or die. That is only up to God. and as far as I see it Obama and all the senators ARE NOT GOD. And Big sky we should have had term limits along time ago.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by honeygrams    - 12/21/2009 9:35:07 AM
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If only Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and a good majority of the other democrats mothers had chosen abortion, i''m confident this country would be a much better place. This bill is crap!
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by rileymartin    - 12/21/2009 9:16:55 AM
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When I was ignorant I believed in keeping these people on indefinditly was right. WRONG! We should stand up and vote off these that do not vote for the will of the people.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by lake front mama    - 12/21/2009 8:56:16 AM
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When I was ignorant I believed in keeping these people on indefinditly was right. WRONG! We should stand up and vote off these that do not vote for the will of the people.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by lake front mama    - 12/21/2009 8:56:07 AM
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parapraxis. Thank you so much for honoring us with your input. We are truly not worthy. Please grace us further with your intellect and expound on your thoughts concerning government entitlements. I fear the only thing we may agree upon is the appropriateness of your screen name. I am sorry you are not feeling well. It appears that the H1N1 may be mutating into the jackass flu.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Just a thought    - 12/21/2009 8:51:44 AM
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It''s time for a Nebraska medical bill of rights and/or an outright rejection of this piece of trash. Call Tom Hansen and let him know that the majority of Nebraskans are against Washington''s attempt to strip us of our freedom - can you san UNCONSTITUTIONAL? Call your reps and let them know that Nebraska says no!
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by wags    - 12/21/2009 8:47:26 AM
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Ben Nelson struck a $100 million dollar deal with Obama. After the feds put Nebraskans on Medicaid, the federal government will pick up the tab, welcome to socialized medicine. We have become a test subject for a Canadian style health system. Nelson, the "conservative" Democrat placed party above his constituents, the deal he struck will allow the House and Senate to pass health care that will include abortion coverage either within the bill, with an amendment or with a federal judge ruling that any federal health program cannot discriminate women who seek an abortion. Nelson will hold up his hands, saying he had nothing to do with it and only the least intelligent will believe him. You want government run health care, you got it. Thank Ben Nelson, I know in November 2012 I will.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by are you kidding?    - 12/21/2009 8:32:44 AM
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parapraxis, I know you''re better than me and you know you''re better than me and I am in fact an idiot!! Just so we have that out of the way. Now, can you please tell us why you feel this bill is a good thing? Also, I''d like to add that health care is NOT a right or entitlement!! You really think it is? Really? Just because you think you''re special doesn''t make it so and just because you think you (or anyone) is entitled to anything someone else has earned doesn''t make it so. Start a fund, hand it to those you want to help, but DON''T take from one to give to another it''s a lazy way of doing something that makes you feel good about yourself. Good luck with feeling nauseated BTW......
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Hoghunter    - 12/21/2009 8:05:38 AM
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The disgraceful and corrupt methods used to move this bill scream for term limits to be put in place for our federally elected officials.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by bigsky    - 12/21/2009 7:53:15 AM
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I feel nauseated that I live in the general vicinity of most of you. I''m surprised you can figure out such advanced technology as a keyboard and mouse. My favorite quote on this thread (oh, so many to choose from) is

Health care is not a right or entitlement

While there are so many chicken little musings on this thread, that one is the winner because it succinctly sums up the general intellect on this thread.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by parapraxis    - 12/21/2009 4:06:18 AM
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Funny how most forget how bad of shape the country was in when Obama took over. And calling me an extremist for disagreeing with your opinion cracks me up.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by whatwasthat    - 12/21/2009 1:16:49 AM
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If exile is not an option deport obama and send Ben Nelson with him.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by stuperdave    - 12/20/2009 11:34:10 PM
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I wonder hope all the jack holes who voted for this communist president really feel great about this change. We need to not only impeach him but exile him as well.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by stuperdave    - 12/20/2009 10:47:19 PM
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I feel incredibly sorry for our poor little boy having to grow up with all this debt strapped to his ankles. This so called president HAS to be stopped from spending money the US doesn''t even HAVE!! I think all those corrupt pigs on capitol hill should have to forgo their "special" insurance and take this crap. Bet the "reform" wouldn''t pass then!
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Oakley78    - 12/20/2009 10:23:43 PM
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On a Sacramento radio station today, the news caster was saying something about Nelson selling out and his payback for his vote was that the State of Nebraska would pay nothing for X # of years into the health care system??? I just caught the last minuted of the broadcast but that''s the gist of the story.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by ATC Alan    - 12/20/2009 9:36:40 PM
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On a Sacramento radio station today, the news caster was saying something about Nelson selling out and his payback for his vote was that the State of Nebraska would pay nothing for X # of years into the health care system??? I just caught the last minuted of the broadcast but that''s the gist of the story.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by ATC Alan    - 12/20/2009 9:36:33 PM
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Also, you need to look on the bright side. This bill is the equivalent of the democrat party putting a gun to it''s head and pulling the trigger.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by maxpower    - 12/20/2009 9:35:35 PM
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First of all, I said it was a bad bill and it is. I am totally against this bill. But, gizzmo who the f are you calling a dufus? I know more about politics and policy than you ever will. I don''t live in Nebraska, and I guarantee I pay more in taxes in a year than you probably make in a year. So shove your personal attacks up your idiotic arse. I also own every health insurance stock, so I''ve already seen the benefits of this bill personally as my portfolio has increased, but I do stand to get hit with additional taxes and premium hikes. But aside from my personal situation, I''ve said it was a bad bill for the country from the get go, and it is. I don''t condone what Nelson did, but it is a FACT that he brokered a deal for the state of Nebraska that was better than the other 59 senators that voted for this bill, including Mary Landrieu. If you have difficulty understanding that you''re probably just too stupid and I can''t help you.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by maxpower    - 12/20/2009 9:12:57 PM
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I wrote first, then read the whole article..... Since when should human health be treated as a COMMODITY???? Like corn and wheat. Take stock in the insurance companies, because if there is a way to keep from paying up, these low life scum will find it. The economy and Country will be in deep crap, and it will be too late to do crap about it.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Storm Watcher    - 12/20/2009 8:45:15 PM
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I think Pathology Services is behind this, with their thousand dollar tests that are inconclusive. They cant even tell what was wrong with my son, but charged my insurance company big bucks. It is ALL corrupt.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Storm Watcher    - 12/20/2009 8:36:10 PM
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Dosk Vadania, commerads. Welcome to the Soviet Union, and obama is chief.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Storm Watcher    - 12/20/2009 8:29:52 PM
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Dosk Vadania, commerads. Welcome to the Soviet Union, and obama is chief.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Storm Watcher    - 12/20/2009 8:29:46 PM
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ALL HAIL KING obama, AND HIS JESTER ben nelson
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Ren    - 12/20/2009 6:51:49 PM
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First of all ...there is a difference between making something available and forcing people to do it. People should not be forced to carry health insurance. If the government wants to regulate the health insurance industry then it needs to take a good look at the actual health industry. Their costs have increased ten fold in just as many years. Then that would lead to looking into the cost of upper level educational providers. Why don''t we just let the government set all standards, costs, payscales ect.? Wouldn''t that make life easy? 2nd...so what if the Federal gov is going to pick up the tab for Nebraska...where does the federal government get its money? Tax payers!Even those in Nebraska. 3rd...Why should I ''investigate'' the bill. The fact that I will be forced to accept it and required to carry insurance, by law or suffer penalties, is enough to tell me that it is unAmerican. Well maybe not in this new major governmetally controlled America.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by sensible    - 12/20/2009 4:40:57 PM
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maxpower...you said "He got a lot for the people of Nebraska. Among other things, the federal government has to cover the medicaid cost for Nebraska into perpetuity." Hey, dufus, who do you think is going to pay for this? YOU are, and me and all the other people in Nebraska. Nebraskans didn''t gain anything from Ben Nelson''s actions. He just managed to get a bit of publicity.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by gizzmo    - 12/20/2009 3:21:12 PM
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What do you mean Max, Ben got us a deal? That couldn''t be he assured all of us that his vote was NOT for sale.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by sako    - 12/20/2009 2:31:26 PM
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It''s a bad bill. It''s a huge win for the insurance companies. It mandates that we all have health insurance, and it forces the insurance companies to cover everyone, even those with pre-existing conditions. There are limits to what they can charge you if you are difficult to insure, so that money is made up by the rest of the already insured with higher premiums. Look at the insurance company stocks. They''re all up 10% since the debate began. It cuts 500 billion from medicare over the next 10 years. Good or bad? Depends on your perspective. Lastly, it doesn''t even start covering most of the uninsured until 2014, but the taxes and penalties begin immediately. I will give Ben Nelson this much. He played the political game well. He got a lot for the people of Nebraska. Among other things, the federal government has to cover the medicaid cost for Nebraska into perpetuity.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by maxpower    - 12/20/2009 10:36:45 AM
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From businessweek.com story of the worlds happiest countries---Feeling blue? Perhaps you live in the wrong country. A recent study from Britain''s University of Leicester examined a range of statistical data to devise a ranking of the world''s happiest nations. Heading up the list: Denmark, which rose to the top thanks to its wealth, natural beauty, small size, quality education, and good health care. Here is a link to part of Denmarks health coverage http://www.denmark.dk/en/menu/Live-And-Work/Health-Insurance-Social-Security.htm My ? here I guess is why can''t our "democracy" of a nation learn from these other countries health care plans?
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by stuperdave    - 12/20/2009 10:17:56 AM
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Hey George!I would like to thank you for one positive that came out of this story.I needed a new target for my dartboard.Benedict Ben will be the perfect cover for it.LOL For those the likes of extremist and whatwasthat,some of us are NOT the political lemmings like you are.When it looks,feels,and smells like a load of crap...it usually is.So since you are so for this,I would love to know your addresses so I can send you my portion of the bill for this worthless piece of legislation.Thanks again George,for the new dartboard target.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Badger    - 12/20/2009 10:13:32 AM
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My family is part of the target group that this Bill is supposed to provide medical coverage for, and still wish they hadn''t passed it. The numbers just don''t add up.

Who pays?

The first one that says "The Government" gets to wear a funny hat and sit in the corner, drooling on themselves. In case anyone hasn''t noticed, the US Government gets its money from the taxpayers. If they just printed more money to pay for this bill, we would be paying a stack of reichsmar... dollars for every loaf of bread. I give it 5 years before someone in congress apologetically announces that we are going to need an additional 10% tax on our incomes to pay for this economic abomination.

As for senator Nelson and his vote... When polls state that only 20% of your constituency want you to vote for something, YOU DONT VOTE FOR IT. This is why so many people have lost faith in the system and feel that voting is pointless. It doesn''t matter what the citizens who elected them say, because once in office the politicians are going to vote for their own self interest. Serving the people be d##ned.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Philip    - 12/20/2009 9:42:18 AM
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sorry for the typos, also, below whould have read "day to day MIS-management". Like so many of our governmental agencies.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by bigcity    - 12/20/2009 8:34:39 AM
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This will end up just like all types of welfare have ended up - the government starting several dozen new agencies to eversee the programs implementation and day to day management, while at the same time, teaching the general public that does not feel they need to pay their own way, just how to skirt the rules and perform a minimum amount of work to reap the maximum amount of government benefits that are paid for by those of us that work in excess and pay our own way.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by bigcity    - 12/20/2009 8:31:50 AM
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Just a thought, that''s one of the basic problems with this whole issue. People assume that they have a right to health care and of course now it''s become one of our ''entitlements.'' If people can''t pay for health care, even if they are here illegally, then ''the government'' picks up the tab. That of course translates to middle class taxpayers. By the time this makes it to the floor for the final vote it will probably be much worse than it is now. Buckle up for much higher taxes.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Diogenes    - 12/20/2009 8:31:00 AM
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Sensible: Of course you don''t want to waste your money on insurance, but you have no problem exposing the rest of us to the cost of any unforeseen illness you might suffer. People that do not exercise some degree of personal responsibility are a large part of the health care problem. Health care is not a right or entitlement. When the government is bankrupted because everybody wants something for nothing, then maybe politicians will stop trying to make us all equal.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Just a thought    - 12/20/2009 7:56:08 AM
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A couple points, Nelson only voted for cloture, the actually vote on the Senate bill has not happened yet. This bill and the House bill will be resolved in committee and then in goes back for a vote. This is not the final bill.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by SRW    - 12/20/2009 5:04:42 AM
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people who have been in prison also receive full medical coverage, including dental upon their release. I still can''t understand that one.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by rowdy1    - 12/20/2009 4:14:01 AM
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We already pay for meicaid for the baby factories. They just keep haveing more babies because the more they have the more benefits they receive. Then they live in subsidized housing etc. I know how many of those houses I''ve driven by that own new cars, that I could never afford working. And most of these women have men that live with them that they don''t rep[ort because they would lose some of their benefits. I know when I couldn''t work do to health problems I couldn''t get medicaid until I qualified for disability. Needed to have a kid to qualify. What a bunch of crap.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by rowdy1    - 12/20/2009 4:04:31 AM
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How many of you doomsdayers have actually researched this bill? Listening to Rush and the Cry babies on FOX news don''t count as research. Sensible your reasoning is pathetic you haven''t seen a doctor in 8 years so you don''t need insurance, what happens if you get sick and have stay in the hospital for a week, its only about 5500 dollars a night just for the room and they expect it paid in 12 months! Ya some punk ass crack dealers are gonna benifit but if it saves one child from suffering then in my eyes its worth it!
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by whatwasthat    - 12/20/2009 2:05:17 AM
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What ever happened to "home of the free"? Where in this country are we really free when every time you turn around there is a group of old wealthy crack pots telling us we will have to do this or that. Just wait and see in another ten yrs they will be implanting chips into our bodies at birth or tattooing barcodes on us. Just as well lock us up in a damn concentration camp cuz we are going from a democracy to a natzi run govt.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by stuperdave    - 12/20/2009 1:03:03 AM
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It is disheartning to say the least to realize our government is so corrupt. It doesn''t matter if it''s Democtate or if it''s Republican. What a shame so many are willing to sell their soul! I wonder how much longer God will stand for all this.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Placeholder    - 12/19/2009 11:29:44 PM
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So the Feds are telling me I HAVE to pay for health insurance or I will be penalties? Excuse me! I haven''t been to a doctor in more than 8 years. IF I had been paying premiums it would definitely have been a waste of my money. Sorry but I won''t do it. I''ll take my money and fight the whole dang issue. Forcing Americans to carry/pay for health insurance!!! I am so angry right now I can''t even think. Law says you have to have auto insurance. Law says you have to have house insurance. Law says you have you have flood insurance. Law says you have to wear a seat belt. Law says you can''t go out an have a cigarette with your cocktail. Law says...Law says...Law says....Well what do the PEOPLE say? When the hell did we become a police state?
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by sensible    - 12/19/2009 11:19:00 PM
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Isn''t it comforting knowing that we will be helping to pay the mandated premiums for all the low income pimps, drug dealers, crooks and other underground economy business people? Rejoice, it will be free healthcare for all. Oh, and it would do you well to buy stock in health insurance providers who now, courtesy of the American taxpayers, will increase their clientele by roughly 30 million policy holders.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by sako    - 12/19/2009 10:34:24 PM
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Benedict Ben strikes again!
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Badger    - 12/19/2009 9:42:03 PM
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Does the insurance company you all pay into now cover abortions? That''s what I thought. The RNC employee health insurance covers them, Focus on the Family''s health insurance covers them. Regardless, this bill''s crap/an insurance company giveaway. Nelson waited until he could hand us over on a silver platter to execs. Nelson lost my vote along time ago. He never had any of yours. Let''s not kid ourselves here. Any bill that Nelson would vote for is automatically CRAP and we all knew this months ago.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by outsider    - 12/19/2009 8:50:38 PM
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(http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/017/367xquar.asp) But that''s not what''s in the new Reid bill. The new Reid language that Senator Nelson now finds acceptable would allow federal subsidies to flow to plans that cover elective abortions in the insurance exchanges. Senate Democrats try to create the impression that only the enrollees'' premiums will pay for the abortion coverage. But it''s an artificial bookkeeping exercise. Taxpayer funding would support the same insurance policies that pay for abortions. Senator Nelson is touting the fact that states can enact laws which prohibit elective abortions in the exchanges (the so-called "opt out"), but that was already permissible under the previous Reid language. And in any event a state can''t protect its taxpayers from financing abortions beyond its borders. Senator Nelson''s "compromise" leaves Nebraska''s voters entirely vulnerable to paying for California''s and New York''s abortions.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Hoghunter    - 12/19/2009 8:09:31 PM
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No wonder Americans are known as "marks" to the rest of the world.....and still buying into the Dem. vs. Rep. thing? LOL!! If you like Obama then you must have enjoyed GWB just fine. And yes abortions will be paid for by OUR tax money and we will all have to deal with that fact.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Hoghunter    - 12/19/2009 8:07:13 PM
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are you Kidding-- read the article again please--it does say NO FUNDS FOR ABORTION. I''ll vote for BEN AGAIN also. He does listen.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by kuchen    - 12/19/2009 7:43:06 PM
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Yes! I thought he would vote against it. I''m with you, Extremist! I am so tired of the Republicans and their "doomsday" propaganda. I am totally behind Obama. No bill is going to be the "magic wand" for all Americans, but something has to be done. The insurance companies and special interest groups, and the lobbyists are not going to like it, but it''s about time they were put in their place and not allowed to run this country and control the rest of us. Harry Reed needs to pack up his suits and ties and go home. They all have excellent health care so they are not in a hurry to help the people who can''t afford it. I WILL vote for Ben Nelson now.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Friendly One    - 12/19/2009 7:21:21 PM
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It is uncomfortable that bribes are being made, and accepted, for politicians to go against their stated values. And there is no attempt to hide it.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by beeker    - 12/19/2009 6:09:27 PM
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A disgrace, an embarrassment, a betrayal, a man who will sell out his constituents for third pieces of silver, three years of listening to Ben Nelson sputter on about his pro life beliefs while voting for a bill that will fund hundred of thousands if not millions of abortions over the years. I guess that is what you get for voting for a Democrat.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by are you kidding?    - 12/19/2009 4:26:55 PM
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Does this really surprise anyone? This is how he always planned to vote. He''s a politician. He''ll say what his constituents want to hear and then go ahead and do what he wants. His supposed opposition to this bill is his alibi when he has to give his reason for going against the Constitution and the people he was elected to represent. When the two houses get together to blend their bills the things he said he opposed may very well get included anyway. EXTREMIST, what exactly makes us hicks? Is it our opposition to the government effectively taking over a sixth of the nation''s economy? Do you think we are ignorant of the benevolent nature of government, in particular the current regime? Maybe it''s because we''re so benighted that we don''t believe we should spend massive amounts of money that we don''t have? Or is it that we have seen government make promises about such matters before but then seen the costs increase astronomically, far beyond the projections? Is it because we''ve had too much experience with bureaucracies that are inefficient, unresponsive to and unconcerned about people''s needs, who become entrenched and seem to be answerable to no one? Probably it''s because we live in a predominately rural state, totally unsophisticated. As far as Nelson regretting this, I doubt it. We will but he won''t.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Diogenes    - 12/19/2009 4:26:26 PM
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Let me quote President Obama earlier this week, "....if health care reform is not passed, the US Government will go broke...". Now, the citizens will go broke I guess. If you can''t afford health insurance, how can you afford the penalties for not having it? Wouldn''t it have been easier to just have the government set the maximum costs for each and every health care line item? I give up, the citizens just can''t win. Just you wait and see....there WILL be a tax to cover this, your premiums will go up, and your quality of care WILL go down. Just like the new "feel the pain tax" legislation out now to add 1% to our federal income taxes to pay for the Afgan war.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Ren    - 12/19/2009 4:19:34 PM
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Extremist, why do you feel this is a good thing?
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by Hoghunter    - 12/19/2009 3:52:51 PM
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You hicks are pathetic. You are ragging on Nelson for doing something for the good of the citizens of this country.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by EXTREMIST   You've been banned - 12/19/2009 3:33:33 PM
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Ben who...? The used to be senator from Nebraska?
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by gizzmo    - 12/19/2009 3:04:37 PM
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He caved. That''s the end of his career in Nebraska. Get ready to pay TWICE your current health insurance rates, America! You think the country is in trouble now? Just wait! Ben Nelson just allowed it to get worse.
Report Talk Back AbusePosted by nice person    - 12/19/2009 3:01:19 PM
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Lost my vote........
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