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| ACLU: Marriage checklist unfairly targets illegal immigrants |  |
| by George Lauby (North Platte Bulletin) - 6/8/2009 |
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The ACLU might sue Lincoln County because the county makes it too hard for new immigrants to obtain a marriage license. Immigrants don’t have to be U.S. citizens to be married in Nebraska, the ACLU says. ACLU Legal Director Amy Miller has sent a “second and final warning” to officials in Lincoln, Phelps and Platte counties that their identification requirements are too stringent for marriage license applicants. Lincoln County requires a photo ID -- for example, a driver’s license or passport -- according to requirements posted on the Lincoln County government website. Also, the social security numbers of both the bride and groom are requested. The ACLU says those requirements are outside the law and “squarely target new immigrants.” Immigrants, even if they are in the county illegally, are entitled to marry, Miller said. Lincoln County Clerk Becky Rossell said the county requirements have been in place as long as she can recall in 19 years of work in the county clerk’s office. The Nebraska Association of County Officials is handling the ACLU complaint, Rossell said. A meeting is expected next week. Dawson County, which initially was part of the ACLU complaint, is no longer on the ACLU complaint list. Dawson County previously required the couple to provide English-language translations of birth certificates. Officials there are reviewing policies in light of the complaint. And, the ACLU has closed its file on another county -- Hall County. “Hall County...has made all necessary changes to ensure fair procedures,” Miller said. Hall County no longer requires a Social Security number and now accepts a foreign passport as identification to get married.
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The North Platte Bulletin - Published 6/8/2009
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sensible- they do not get a SS# like what you or I would get. If they did get a traditional SS# that might mean they might have to actually pay taxes and the govt wouldn''t want that. I share some of your concerns too. It burns my assets that citizens have a hard time collecting benefits and those who do not have to pay taxes, who are not citizens- aside from any race, culture, or ethnic group, just taking about citizenship, they can. GRRRRR!!!! Okay, I have to move on as it is very frustrating to hear how the city, state and govt. keeps proposing new taxes. $h!t B4 long I won''t even get a pay check, just a bill EOW for the taxes that I owe. But the govt does not look at the taxes I have to pay when it comes to assistance, only my gross - never mind the fact a good portion goes to some sort of tax. My children are soooo UNDER-insured it makes me sick. |
 | Posted by myview - 6/14/2009 8:41:52 PM
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Myview, I, too, have worked with these programs and I am only speaking from experience. Also, I am not referring to children born here. Now, if what your saying is that an illegal can sneak into this country, apply for ''benefits'', be given a SS# in order to recieve those benefits and not be reported to the immigration office, then I see a major problem. Without legal status to be in this country, how can the government justify issuing a SS# for the sake of ''benefits''. I have been in this country my entire life as were my parents, ect. However, I can''t get a single benefit even though I am about to lose everything I have worked long and hard for. Sorry, but I really don''t have alot of ''sympathy'' for these people. It irks the h@ll out of me that I pay taxes for a non-American to get all sorts of ''benefits'' while I can''t pay my own dang electric bill. Sorry...but we should be taking care of those who have paid to support this ''wonderful government''. What good is it to put all the time and money into border patrol if we are going to just look they other way when we find those who have managed to make it past the border patrol? And not only do we look the other way we feed, clothes and house them while we have many of our own citizens facing a complete financial melt down. OOOOooo, it p^*$#es me off. WE have born/breed American kids sitting in hold overs waiting for beds in proper facilities while illegal kids are getting the openings. American ''rights'' belong to American people. Benefits provided by the American Government, paid for by American Tax Dollars should be provided to American citizens. This ACLU lawyer should be booted right off the American Bar Association. |
 | Posted by sensible - 6/12/2009 7:28:14 AM
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ACLU= American Civil Liberties Union!!! There are illegals, NOT AMERICAN!!! They should be arrested the second they are identified as illegal!!! |
 | Posted by growup - 6/11/2009 11:01:53 PM
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Sensible, you are a little miss-informed yourself. I work closely with the programs you speak of and you do not have to have a traditional SS# for Medicaid and food stamps. If you want services and do not have a SS# because you are not a citizen then all you have to do is request a # and you''ll be assigned one for the purpose of getting benefits. Further, you can have two illegal''s that bore a child in the US making that child a citizen and they will even get housing. Only one person has to be a US citizen, so an infant born in the US will qualify its illegal immigrant parents housing for housing. |
 | Posted by myview - 6/10/2009 7:58:32 PM
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HEllcat, I understand your frustration completely. However, you are misinformed in a few matters. You have to have a SS# in order to qualify for medicade or food stamps. SO, maybe the ACLU wants to say that our HHS system is also discriminatory!? Now if you really want to blow a cork...if an illegal alien child gets into trouble they are granted the same juvenile justice system as an American resident child. However, since they have no SS# they can not recieve medicade coverage once they are in the system. That means that all medical, dental and psychiatric care is billed directly to the department of HHS and paid by your tax dollars. I too say enough is enough!!!! |
 | Posted by sensible - 6/10/2009 1:41:59 PM
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I am sick to death with this crap, these people have more right''s than we will ever had and they don''t have to do a thing to get them either, they don''t have to pay tax they don''t have to do any thing except come over here and suck our welfare system dry. they are given food stamps free rent medical I can''t get if I need it, which I could sure as hell use right now thank you and I was BORN HERE... Am I mad am I fed up with this CRAP YES I am these people can go home where their own government don''t give a rats behind who they marry, and they won''t give them a dime to live on either... Go The FRICK HOME if you want to get married, they onlt want to get married cause they can have about a dozen kids our welfare system has to support, and they can suck the system dry while they do it. I have had it, I think they should all be hurded up drug kicking and screaming back to whaere they came from and throwed back across their borders and if they tryed to come back they should be SHOT on sight. I HAVE HAD IT.... |
 | Posted by HellCat - 6/10/2009 12:26:53 PM
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Box em up and ship em home - single! They never pay taxes anyway so off with them! |
 | Posted by notsoshocking - 6/10/2009 7:39:01 AM
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There in a court house, and illegal? but its illegal to treat them as if they are illegal. Court should be a safe house for criminals also. Kind of a safe house... This is so stupid I almost cant make fun of it... It does it on its own! |
 | Posted by eagle eye - 6/10/2009 2:53:48 AM
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I couldn''t agree more with you Moore. |
 | Posted by wizdumb - 6/9/2009 1:35:49 PM
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Sorry, I have to disagree with the ACLU, here. Proper ID and SS# is not ''discriminating''.Everyone applying for a marriage license needs to provide such info.Discrimination would occur only if those who ''look'' like they may be illegal immigrants were asked for such identification. And I have to agree, if you aren''t in this country legally, paying all of the taxes the rest of us put up with why reap any of the benefits? Without a SS# you won''t pay fed, state,local or income tax and without one you won''t get married.Sorry but you can''t ask for sanction of any kind from a country or its government if you don''t pay for it like everybody else. Remember, the ID required for marriage also ensures that the participants are of legal age to do so. If we don''t ask for such proof you are opening a pandora''s box. As for the ACLU stepping in...If I remember correctly, the ACLU stands for ''The AMERICAN''S Civil Liberties Union so why are they even getting involved in the issues of ''non-Americans''?I think they have overstepped their authority and as such should be ignored in their request. Let it go to court and let the AMERICAN people speak up. As I have said before, with rights comes responsibilities. If you don''t want the responsibilities don''t expect to be entitled to the rights. |
 | Posted by sensible - 6/9/2009 1:31:00 PM
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illegal immigrants should''nt have any rights. it is illegal for them to be here, let alone get married. become a legal u.s. citizen and then ask for some rights. |
 | Posted by Moore - 6/8/2009 8:30:15 PM
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Go ACLU and while you are at it, clean up alot of other lincoln counties stringent policies...The smoking ban for one in my opinion is segrogation..it is a shame that smokers now basically have to go into the closet so to say, I think it should be a per business choice. |
 | Posted by magmar - 6/8/2009 6:10:23 PM
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ACLU = Worthless about 90% of the time. I think this fits in the 90% category. |
 | Posted by Walt - 6/8/2009 12:15:11 PM
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