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And again, the point that this was a child that was molested, is missed (or ignored) completely.
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I do not see any prejudice in my post but fact! Did he ever try to tell someone, NO! Did he ever try to run from her in the hundreds of miles they went while running, NO! I admit what she did was wrong.... but you can't downplay the fact that he was illegaly in our country, as was the whole family! They come to this country for a better life but in actuallity our crime rate rises which causes everything else to rise also! Taxes, Insurance, etc... They come with no legal documentation which means they have to do what it takes to get by until a employer who doesn't follow the laws hires them for a fraction of what there worth to raise his GROSS value! |
| Posted by witness - 10/3/2008 10:24:28 AM
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Lets see witness...how could I have gotten negative vibes from your post?
"He did not fight her or tell anyone he was raped, he was willing... and I do not see molestation here either! This kid is just playing our system for the benefits of his border jumping family. They need to go back where they came from..."
Those are your words,witness.
DO you not see any prejudices within them? IF you don't, then we are wasting are breath (fingers) discussing the matter with you. There's an old saying...
'The best way to make your self look the idiot is to try and argue with one.'
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| Posted by sensible - 10/2/2008 9:11:50 PM
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Sensible is not "off the wall". Go back read your post outloud (slowly) and listen. Your meaning is LOUD & CLEAR. |
| Posted by tdr - 10/2/2008 6:24:35 PM
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Also, this country was built on LAWS! To a person with a long line of veterans in his family, numorous war-time included, Those LAWS mean alot to us to. Maybe we should just open up the flood gates and drop our laws and have a free for all! AAAAAAAAHHH I don't think so, UNITED STATES don't play that! |
| Posted by witness - 10/2/2008 5:35:07 PM
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sensible, omgosh, where did you get out of my post that I was downplaying this situation? I am just as against it as anyone, probly more! Your off the wall rage has me worried as to your anger level and how far you would take it. I better go, I'm all shaky and stuff... |
| Posted by witness - 10/2/2008 5:29:39 PM
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Sensible, you are my new hero!!! Awesome post! |
| Posted by tdr - 10/2/2008 1:36:39 PM
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WOW! Witness... your ignorence is showing through loud and clear. Rape is not only through use of force. It includes coersion, threat, and manipulation of one unable by law, mental status or physical inability to provide 'legal consent'.
As for 'border jumping' This country was built on 'border jumpers'. The only Native Americans were murdered, slaughtered, driven from their homes and held capitive in 'Christian Missions' then transferred to 'Reservations'.
A child is a child regardless of race, creed, relious background or country of origin. Once in this country they are entitled to all of the rights and protection we provide.
A Teacher is to be held to the same same standards of ethical, moral and legal standards regardless of gender. She is just as wrong as the ST. Pat's teacher.
Another story is on the topic of 'Banning Affirmative Action'. It is attitudes such as yours that cause me to fear such a banning. If you allow your prejudices to blindside you in criminal cases, how would that affect a job applicant? My goodness! This country is considered 'the Melting Pot' but you want it to become a blan soup.
Prejudice leads to hatred which leads to violence which leads to turmoil. Open your eyes and look into the 21st century. Your thinking is dangerous! |
| Posted by sensible - 10/2/2008 11:02:04 AM
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It is really interesting to read witness' posts on the Egenberger case and then read their posts on this case.
It seems to me that witness thinks it's NOT rape/molestation when it is a MALE victim, but it is rape/molestation when it's a female victim.
Or, worse yet, does witness believe it is rape/molestation when it's a caucasian victim, but not rape/molestation when the victim is hispanic?
Both thoughts sicken me. |
| Posted by tdr - 10/1/2008 2:08:41 PM
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wit-less, you completely infuriate me. There are NO words! |
| Posted by tdr - 10/1/2008 10:45:14 AM
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witness: do you have children? If you did, whether they consent or not, having sex with someone twice your age is still rape. How would you feel if your 12 yr old was having sex with their teacher? Would you be ok with it just because they wanted to? |
| Posted by Logical - 10/1/2008 8:18:01 AM
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I don't see how some people call this rape! Rape is the unwanted sexual attack on a person! He did not fight her or tell anyone he was raped, he was willing... and I do not see molestation here either! This kid is just playing our system for the benefits of his border jumping family. They need to go back where they came from... |
| Posted by witness - 10/1/2008 8:10:20 AM
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I think you all misunderstood what I was trying to say, the fact that he is an illegal immigrant has nothing to do with the fact that she molested him. That teacher is a sick woman and makes being a teacher degrading. What I was trying to say is now that the case is done and over with send them back to Mexico, and how do you know how old he really is, he has no documents. I know that his "little brother" who is 2 is also very well known has his son. So how do we know how old he really is? |
| Posted by Logical - 10/1/2008 7:42:32 AM
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Now that she got what she deserves, the feds need to step in enforce the laws that the boy and his family broke by being in the US illegally... |
| Posted by LoneWolfe - 10/1/2008 2:48:12 AM
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Wait, let me get this right: Because he was illegally brought here by his parents, the fact that he was raped doesn't count, right? Wow. Wow. Whether or not someone is in my beloved home country of the United States of America legally or not, I'm going to fight for their right to not be taken advantage of. Child rape is a crime, whether the victim is a resident or not. Or, does it make it easier to sleep at night thinking he deserved it because his parents brought him here illegally? I do not think people should be here illegally, but even I have the decency to draw the line at saying their fair game when it comes to pedophiles. |
| Posted by Hamjustice - 9/30/2008 10:13:11 PM
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He was an illegal immigrant in the United States when he left with Peterson. He's been granted humanitarian parole by the Department of Homeland Security, and his attorney hopes to win permanent legal status for him and his family.
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| Posted by earthangel432001 - 9/30/2008 8:24:04 PM
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How many 13 year olds have a say in where their family chooses to live?
Is it acceptable to molest children of illegal immigrants because they are not as important?
Sounds like she would have eventually found SOMEONE to molest, regardless of their status, due to the fact she had a maturity level of a junior high student.
Really an ignorant post! |
| Posted by tdr - 9/30/2008 4:18:28 PM
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Rule of thumb? In the early 1900's it was legal for men to beat their wives, as long as the stick was no wider than their thumb. Just a little info for the day. And I don't think that kid had any right being here whats so ever but she didnt need to go and run off or even have a relationship with him. Once again, people in this world never cease to surprise me. |
| Posted by Logical - 9/30/2008 12:06:20 PM
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what about the fact that this boys whole family are border jumpers and should not even have been here in the first place! Miss Peterson was wrong no doubt, but this boy and his whole family were here in violation of federal law also! What happened to them? NOTHING! Send them back home .... |
| Posted by witness - 9/30/2008 8:23:05 AM
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as a rule of thumb: federal inmates serve 80% of their sentence. so 72 months would be around 57.5 months ... subtract a year for time served ... makes it 45.5 ... and dont forget a six month halfway house placement ... she will actually be in "close" custody for about 39.5 months ... a tad over 3 years. finally, because of her criminal history index ... the BOP will most likely place her in a minimum security camp. |
| Posted by durwood patch - 9/30/2008 5:50:39 AM
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I agree Ms. Peterson is solely responsible for her actions and I'm glad she received a somewhat meaningful sentence. Apparently in this case, thankfully, the people in a position to report and investigate this crime did so in an appropriate and timely manner so this didn't go on behind windowless coaches room doors for months. |
| Posted by lily - 9/29/2008 4:47:25 PM
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Good Behavior???? There is not much time off for good behavior in the federal system. She was sentenced to 72 months which under the bureau of prisons is 282 days off for good behavior. Then she has 5 years of supervised release. She has a long ways to go even before she will be a "free" individual. Good luck |
| Posted by cscscs007 - 9/29/2008 4:32:14 PM
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Where was this trial held? How do we get our sexual predator cases sent there? At least some action taken against this one. I don't care if you are male or female, this kind of stuff is not the victims fault, EVER! |
| Posted by farmersdaughter - 9/29/2008 2:36:46 PM
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Here we go again!
Get ready to hear blame being thrown at everyone EXCEPT Ms. Peterson (I really hope I'm wrong). |
| Posted by tdr - 9/29/2008 2:20:01 PM
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